The paragraph started with a comment from Bill Schroeder, who was the color guy on the Fox Broadcast yesterday, and who I thought did a pretty good job of analyzing the game. In response to Buster Posey's RBI single up the middle, Schroeder had said, "Just don't pull that ball. You pull a ball, you wind up putting it on the ground." The post author then pointed out that Melky Cabrera had "pulled" a ball to the left-center gap for a triple and Madison Bumgarner had pulled a ball down the LF line an inning earlier for an RBI. Then came this gem: "The point I'm trying to make is ALL THE GIANTS DO IS PULL THE BALL. THAT IS THE ENTIRE APPROACH. THE HITTING MEETING BEFORE EACH SERIES IS JUST A BUNCH OF GUYS SITTING AROUND A TABLE WHILE BAM BAM POINTS TO A DRY ERASE BOARD WITH ONLY THE WORD "SWING" WRITTEN ON IT. The first 4 innings of this game was a tribute to weak contact and could've been photographed and put in a book called the Joy of Pull. Their "swing first" approach is just...well, let's all be thankful that Randy Wolf decided to hang some curveballs."
Now, I'm not going to dwell on the fact that balls hit from alley to alley are not pulled. I'm not going to dwell in the fact that Melky Cabrera, Buster Posey, Pablo Sandoval and Angel Pagan are not pull hitters and neither are Brandon Crawford, Joaquin Arias, Hector Sanchez, Emmanuel Burriss, Ryan Theriot or Brett Pill. I think you get my point. If Aubrey Huff is the embodiment of the Giants approach at the plate, then yes, they might be a pull happy team, but who else on the team tries to pull the ball down the line almost every AB? I will also briefly point out that "swing first" and "pull" are not synonyms in hitting vernacular, but I'm not going to dwell on that either.
What I've been thinking about lately, and this post brought to the forefront of my brain, is that maybe, just maybe, the Giants and many other teams in baseball need to be pulling the ball more rather than less. Aaron Rowand and Aubrey Huff have complained, sometimes bitterly, about "Triples Alley" at AT&T Park, pointing out that there is more to it than the 421 foot distance to the wall. The other problem with it is that right fielders take away that alley by playing way over to the left and deep. They concede the RF line completely, knowing that it's shallow enough and they can get over fast enough to hold hitters to no more than a double and often a single on balls hit all the way to the wall. The the other night on the TV broadcast, Kruk used a telestrator to show how the defense of an OPPOSING team was bunched in the center of the field cutting off both alleys. He commented that this defensive alignment is becoming increasingly common because almost all hitters nowadays swing for the middle of the field. Now, you would think that if the opposing team thought the Giants were all dead pull hitters.....oh sorry, I said I wasn't going to dwell on it. In other words, unless you are Melky Cabrera and can absolutely smoke it into those gaps, you are not going to hit many XBH's up the alley these days. Couple that with the difficulty in hitting HR's to the center of AT&T and hitting the ball to the center 3'rd of the park is likely to result in a lot of long outs.
Of course, any time a defense over-covers one area of a field, it opens up other areas. First of all, it opens the 2 outer thirds of the field. Secondly, it just might be easier to hit the ball out of the park down the lines in AT&T than it is to CF and the alleys. The problem is, the art of pulling the ball seems to have been lost somewhere. In my distant memory, I seem to remember a lot of "dead pull" hitters who were quite successful. Maybe it's the pitchers riding the outside corners. Maybe it's evolution of the cut fastball. I don't really know. I just know that as MLB defenses pinch off the corners and as more ballparks have a straight CF fence that extends the power alleys, opportunities are being created for pull and poke hitters, pull the ball down the line or poke it down the opposite field line. This brings us to a Blast From the Past: Darrell Evans.
Darrell Evans is a guy who played for the Giants from 1977-1983. That was the middle third of his career. The first third was played with the Atlanta Braves and the last third with the Detroit Tigers. Bill James has called Darrell the most underrated player in baseball history. I remember not thinking much of Darrell Evans when he played for the Giants. I've always been overly enamored by players with high batting averages. Of course, my ideal hitter is a Willie Mays or Barry Bonds who hit for both high batting averages and hit a lot of HR's, but given the choice between, say, Darrell Evans and Bill Madlock, I've always gravitated to the Bill Madlocks. In my rational consciousness through the education of sabermetrics, I have learned that batting average is largely an empty stat, although I do think it is underrated by many in the sabermetrics community. For an equal OBP, a hit is better than a walk, but I digress. Let's just say that I greatly underrated Darrell Evans too.
Darrell Evans was as dead a pull hitter as ever played the game. I looked up his HR Log on Baseball Reference and found that of his 414 career HR's, 234 were hit to either straight away RF or down the RF line, in other words, between the 304 and 365 ft signs in RF in AT&T Park. 117 were hit to unknown locations. Less than 70 were hit to the middle third of the ballparks. Evans absolutely killed pitches on the inner half of the plate. He didn't swing at pitches on the outer half unless he had to, and did not swing at pitches outside the strike zone. I do remember that he hit a lot of balls down the line that were long enough to be HR's but went harmlessly foul. He only had 2 seasons with a BA above .265, but had a career OBP of .361. You'd think he was a "true outcome" guy but only had 3 seasons in which he struck out more than 100 times. You would also think he "rolled over" a lot of balls, but he only had a couple of seasons with 10 or more GIDP's. He finished a 21 year career with a line of .248/.361/.431 with 414 HR's. Probably not a HOF career but a very valuable one(Bill James makes a very convincing case that if Tony Perez is in the HOF, then Darrell Evans should be too).
I've often wondered what kind of career Darrell Evans would have playing his home games in AT&T Park. Candlestick was an extreme pitcher's park, but the prevailing wind was to RF. How much did that help him? Would the breeze that comes up off McCovey Cove knock down those pulled HR's and keep them in the park, or would they blow even more into foul territory? Maybe, just maybe he would have been the perfect AT&T Park hitter, confounding those RF's who cheat into Triples Alley. You see, Darrell Evans would never hit balls into Triples Alley!
PS: One more interesting tidbit on Darrell Evans. It remains unknown what the count was on most of Darrell Evans' HR's, but of the ones that are known, he hit the most on the first pitch of the AB, 0-0, and hit as many on the first pitch of the AB as in 3-2 and 3-1 counts combined. Being a selective hitter and drawing a lot of walks is not necessarily the antithesis of being aggressive early in the count.
PS: One more interesting tidbit on Darrell Evans. It remains unknown what the count was on most of Darrell Evans' HR's, but of the ones that are known, he hit the most on the first pitch of the AB, 0-0, and hit as many on the first pitch of the AB as in 3-2 and 3-1 counts combined. Being a selective hitter and drawing a lot of walks is not necessarily the antithesis of being aggressive early in the count.
Being aggressive and draw a lot if walks. - great point. I have been saying that .
ReplyDeleteYou cannot fit life into a mantra, a formula or a number...most of the time anyway.
If Sabean is less media savvy, it could, sometimes, be that the subtleties of life take too long for impatient
people to hear. Other times, it could be just because he's from Mars, and not Venus.
Remember, baseball stats are all just ballpark figures.
Strategic post. Definitely something for the Giants to think about. OGC's "Baseball Economics 101: Strategies When Resource Constrained" is dealing with some of the issues faced with filling out the lineup and quality of hitters as well. I found Grant's “Turns Out the Giants Swing at a Lot of Bad Pitches” thought provoking as well.
ReplyDeleteThat poster on MCC is not somebody you would want to be stuck in a foxhole with. His posts and comments are the embodiment of whiny, snarky and ultimately non-inquisitive. I've tangled with him a bit here and there.
I just put up a post on MCC "Building an Offense Sabean Style". I wrote it before OGC's post, which might have changed a couple of things I wrote.
I have a problem with "the Giants offense has sucked for five years" type arguments, they really aren't arguments as much as mock-lynchings to fire Sabean and Bochy. There is some criticism I have for Sabean in there, but the main point that after Barry Bonds leaves the lineup the natural order was for the offense to be terrible and the team to regress in the standings. The fact they did the Zito/Rowand shuffle (irregardless of who's fault this is) to put butts in the seats instead of doing a clean burn to the ground seems to be the issue folks just can't let go of. The fact they've rebounded so fast is the true miracle here, and won despite these albatrosses.
The more I think about it, the acquiring of elite level hitting talent is one of the toughest tasks a team faces. Obvious, and yet somehow held against the Greybeards that they haven't achieved that. Sure everybody is frustrated with the lack of runs and the risp hitting woes. There are some intelligent and thoughtful posts about this, and there is a lot of raging. I have to think its a combination of inexperience, talent, some old school mentality but the contradiction here is that Bam Bam is preaching for the hitters to look for their pitch. Which brings it back to hitter skill. Don't know the answer.
Anyways, I really liked what you put down about Evans.
Well, I think one lesson is that there is not one single way to get it done. Melky isn't a particularly patient hitter and he's probably never going to lead the league in HR's, especially if he plays in AT&T Park. What he's done is figured out that if he hits line drives and hits them hard, a lot of them will find their way between outfielders and he'll end up at 2B or 3B. He's 4'th in MLB in hits and first in XBH's since the beginning of last year. You know what? I'll take that! I guy like Darrell Evans would be almost the exact polar opposites in their approach at the plate to Melky Cabrera, but you know what? I'd take a Darrell Evans in this lineup too!
DeleteI totally agree. I think you need hackers, three outcomes, contact and its always nice to have elite guys as well. Sure OBP is nice, its nicer if its attached to a nice fat batting average and slugging percentage. The lesson I see is to go scout for better hitters. Which gets to resource and scarcity issues. OGC nailed that side of it.
DeleteFrustrated about lack of runs: one can never have too many runs, but in fact the Giants this year have a league-average offense. They have scored 108 runs. If one allows a zone of five runs plus-or-minus, six NL teams have scored more than 113 runs (one of them, the Dodgers, have scored 115), and four have scored fewer than 103, with the Giants joining Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, and Miami in the 103-113 zone. Since the Phillies, Reds, and Brewers play in parks where it's easy to score, the Giants are doing OK, aren't they?
DeleteCampanari,
DeleteThat is an excellent point. One more thing, if the Giants win just 1 game out of each of the 2 series they've been swept, they would be 16-12. They lost all 6 of those games by 1 run. In the first series, it was the pitching, but since then the pitching has been fine. The hitting is actually OK too. The only time the hitting really faltered was against Miami. IMO, the biggest problem has been the errors which is quite inexplicable and not what we are used to seeing as Giants fans. I agree, railing about the offense is missing the mark.
Look at it this way: As bad as they have played and as much bad luck and losing of close games they've had, they are only 4 games behind the Dodgers and only 0.5 games out of a playoff spot at this point. I think they are still in great shape for this season. They've gotta beat LA though!
Yes, the errors and the other misplays in the field--I'm thinking of Pagan in the 11-inning victory over Milwaukee.
DeleteTheir hitting too makes one wonder about the sabermetric fixation on OBP, if one has read Grant's recent plaint about swinging at pitches out of the zone and OGC's superb piece about aggressive hitting. Grant complains that the Giants are making a lot of contact and swinging at a lot of pitches out of the zone, what he calls "a brutal combination." But is it really brutal? Grant himself notes that the Giants (at the time of his post) were approximately at league average in runs scored per game, and third in the league in OPS+. Today, in all of MLB, they're currently ninth in batting average, 11th in slugging, and 17th in OBP. Maybe with the speed that they now have in their lineup, aggressiveness pays off; and if so, maybe the problem over the past few years hasn't been reluctance to take a walk so much as it has been slow-footedness. One might ask too if the organization's historically valuing aggressiveness hasn't had to do with their slowness. The slower the team, the greater the discrepancy in value between a hit and a walk.
Campanari,
DeleteI agree. The Angels proved a long time ago that a team can score a lot of runs without a particularly high OBP. There was a stretch of something like 4 or 5 years, a more than adequate sample size, where they A's had a team OBP of something like 20 or 3 points higher than the Angels, yet the Angels scored something like 100+ more runs. Now that is a stat you won't be reading on any sabermetric sites anytime soon!
Another thing I find interesting is every time I see a list of the most free swinging players in baseball, it invariably contains a heathy representation of the most productive hitters in the game while lists of highly selective hitters are full of guys who stink. I pointed that out one time after such a list was posted and got ridiculed for it.
Campanari - great point about the slowfootedness. This ties in with Sabean paying a lot of lip service to getting faster and more athletic. He finally did that this year with Cabrera and Pagan. It's easy to say "we want X", its not always easy to get X. You have to give up Y possibly, and you only have so much Y. The strange thing so far this year is the defense. I thought this would be a superior team defensively to last year, and it hasn't played out that way. Things do have a way of balancing out though.
DeleteIncidentally, Melky's babip is .347, although its low against the majority of his ABs as a lefty (.317) and a bit too high as a righty bat (.423 in 26 PAs). I think Pagan will make some incredible plays to go along with these early mishaps, and his hitting will continue to warm up. That has been his MO with the Mets at least.
One more thing: I really think dead pull right handed power would play well at PacBell. Uribe sure had a nice little run with it, as did Burrell.
ReplyDeleteOh, I couldn't agree more. I don't think you want a lineup full of dead pull hitters, but having one guy who is dead pull hitter to left and another who is a dead pull hitter to right with Melky, Pablo and Buster mixed in there as guys who mostly go for the middle third of the field....you know, I think that could be a pretty darn good lineup!
DeleteGood call Shank. I would add Ross to the list. Along with the pitching, Burrell, Uribe and Ross pulled the Giants to the WS. But 2010 it is not.
DeleteThe Giants have to develop the hitting from down on the farm home cooking. They are investing their big $$$'s wisely on keeping their pitching together. The farm ain't filled with RH pull dingerz waiting to step in.
So, say I - sign Melky NOW, play Blanco, Arias and Belt a lot. Huff ain't going to make the difference this year and certainly not next. And yes the "Swing" piece was all in good snark, but really the Giants need to develop hitters who can use the gaps, move runners along and make the productive out when playing in one run games - and when are they not playing one run games?