This game started out promising but the offense went flaccid in the later innings and the Reds chipped at Logan Webb enough to beat the struggling Giants. BTW, I'm actually not sure we can call what the Giants offense is doing right now struggling. It's more like a lack of struggle! Key Lines:
Thairo Estrada 2B- 1 for 4, HR(6). BA= .248. Estrada answered the Reds first inning run with a homer in the bottom of the inning. I'm thinking OK, we got this. Nope!
Heliot Ramos RF- 2 for 4, 2B. BA= .333. Ramos smoked the ball in his first two AB's with his leadoff double in the second inning leading to a run. He needs a long look here.
Logan Webb RHP- 7 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 K's. ERA= 3.38. This should be good enough to win. Even aces aren't going to go out and throw 7 innings of shutout ball in every start or even most starts. Add in unearned runs and it gets discouraging.
With the Loss the Giants are 9 games behind the Dodgers in the NL West and 3.5 games behind in the Wild Card race.
Mason Black RHP goes for his first MLB Win today against Nick Lodolo LHP.
Churn Watch:
The Giants moved a couple of previously DFA'd players: Daulton Jefferies RHP was traded to the Pirates(who else) for Rodolfo Nolasco OF. Nolasco is 22 yo and in A+ ball. As you might expect, he has light tower power but severe contact issues keep his BA below the Mendoza Line. Mitch White RHP was traded to the Brewers for cash.
Casey Schmitt INF was recalled from AAA Sacramento to replace Nick Ahmed SS who hit the IL with a lingering wrist sprain.
Just when you think things cannot get worse, BOOM! –things got worse!
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that Abbott was awful last night and gave Giant hitters more than enough opportunities to do damage and they couldn’t. Chapman probably got 10 meatballs to hit throughout the night and did nothing. How much of it is coaching and how much is the players just not being very good? How much is it just bad luck? Right now I would say about 10% coaching, 10% bad luck and 80% bad players which is 100% on Farhan.
ReplyDelete"80% bad players which is 100% on Farhan" – but weren't they all good somewhere before they became Giants?
DeleteIs this a Curse of Zaidi? Whose curse was it before him, from 2015 to 2020?
These are proven players with prior success, so how is Farhan's fault that they became bad when they became Giants?
How does that compute?
Maybe Zaidi hasn't made them better – which is why he was hired – but which transaction was predictably bad? YtY? Flores? Wade? Estrada? Ruf? Bryant? Gausman? DsSclafani? Wood? Pederson? Davis? Cobb? Rodón? McGee? Bailey? Sabol? Fitzgerald? Jackson? Harrison? Junis? Alexander? Brebbia?
Or just Chapman, Soler, Lee, Snell, and Hicks? Maybe Taylor Rogers and Nick Ahmed?
If you include Melvin as a bad Farhan decision, you might be right!
And then he got another meatball Saturday....
DeleteI guess the 2 games in COL were an aberration? Hard to watch the Gian's hitters..Well at least Chapman keeps chasing the Mendoza line and Slater the Half Mendoza line! Just give RAMOS nd FITZ ten days straight..ENitre org is getting rocked lately..Top young pitchers having big highs and low lows.sometimes in the sama game!..both in SF and the minors...hopefully they find the consistency the next few months..That may be the only spot the orgnization can be succesful this year
ReplyDeleteSteveVA
No, there was no aberration!
DeleteWinn retired 9 of 10 batters through 3 innings, but the Rookie couldn't get anyone out in the 4th before the roof caved in.
Why?
In the 1st 3 innings Winn in his 13th career major league start got 6 ground outs (as expected from his splitter which was working), 1 K, 1 flyout to RF, and 1 lineout to 3rd.
Why couldn't he get anyone out in the 4th before the roof caved in?
The ball was tattooed all over the field: triple, single, double, double, single, home run.
That doesn't happen when a splitter operates correctly: he gets the ground balls that got 6 of 9 outs in the first 3 innings.
It should have happened in the 4th at least once or twice in 6 batters, but didn't.
He was leaving the ball up and paid dearly for it. Why he, or the sub-sub catcher (Reetz), or the coach, or the manager, or someone didn't realize it, who knows, but how he was allowed to face 9 batters is a strike against the manager & coaches: someone should've helped the Rookie!
What was Melvin thinking? He caught 627 games as a player for 10 years, he's been a manger for nearly 3000 games. Where was he?
this can't continue for too much longer and ownership has to be getting frustrated with the ongoing groundhog day with the giants. i think viele needs to lose his job soon and if zaidi won't do it, greg johnson should do it for him. zaidi's seat is going to be flaming hot if things don't change by june.
ReplyDeleteJustin Viele is solely responsible for the near across the board failure?
DeleteWonder when he'll poison Wade, Bailey, and Conforto. Keep him away from Ramos and Fitz, too!
And what about Pat Burrell, he's also a hitting coach, isn't he? And Matt Williams, why hasn't he done something about it?
From McCovey Chronicles: "For all their offensive ineptitude, the Giants entered the game tied for the highest average exit velocity in the Majors. And if you’re questioning how important that stat is, just read the top seven names and pretend you didn’t hear the Rockies mentioned: Giants, Royals, Rockies, Cubs, Dodgers, Braves, Orioles.
Also, the Giants have the fifth-lowest BABIP in the majors. Is that Viele's fault, too?
Might it be that they're just trying too hard? Thinking too much? Fearing failure?
Time for some blasphemy…. I think it might make sense for the Giants at some point to consider trading Logan Webb and Doval. If this homestand ends with us 10 games under .500 we are done for the year. We don’t have much to look forward to next season from our farm system and most of the good prospects are 2-3 years away at least. If this isn’t the best time to make a move I don’t know when would be with teams like Baltimore looking for the final pieces and a farm system that is bursting with talent. Can anyone tell me they wouldn’t consider Jackson Holiday and Coby Mayo for Doval and Webb?
ReplyDeleteUh.....The Orioles are not going to trade Jackson Holliday, period.
DeleteThey should try to trade Estrada for some legit prospects if they can. I just don’t think he’s a future long term starter for them. K/BB ratios aren’t good, doesn’t have strong enough speed or power, and batting average isn’t all that considering the other deficiencies. He’s been solid for us but gotta sell high on him.
ReplyDeleteFarhan continues to waste value roster space on scrubs who were unwanted by other teams. They never work out. Jeffries and White just the latest. If you’re going to be wasting value real-estate(roster space is like real-estate in a way, it’s valuable space that should be producing you numbers/value) on scrubs, then you can’t be surprised when you have a below .500 team every year. Farhan has got to go. This is not the Giants way.
ReplyDeleteWondering if the players are responding well to Melvin's old school managing methods? The players were reportidly not held accountable under Kapler. I've heard that this team is talented enough to be a good team, it's up to the players to start playing as a team and not as individuals and we should see better results. FZ can make moves to improve the team during the season, or decide to play for 2025 that's his jobs. It bothered me that he stood pat last season during the trade deadline when the Giants were wild card leaders
ReplyDeleteUndisputedly, LMWJ is the Giants best hitter – he's batting .533 with RISP (8-15, 12 RBIs, 3 W, 3 K) – but he's T-5th in RBIs.
ReplyDeleteWhy?
Because he doesn't get many opportunities batting 1st or 2nd in 18 of 29 starts. He has as many RBIs batting 3rd as 2nd with fewer ABs.
He should be batting 4 because, it's a fact that batters who are fourth and fifth in the batting order have the most opportunities to bring baserunners home and tally RBIs. For the Giants, 5th is not optimum because they aren't likely to get that many batters up in an inning!
Just don't put Flores in front of him! Because Chapman, Flores, and Conforto hit into so many DPs, might be best to hit Wade 3rd, ahead of them!
From above:
Delete"Just don't put Flores in front of him! Because Chapman, Flores, and Conforto hit into so many DPs, might be best to hit Wade 3rd, ahead of them!"
Sunday's lineup:
Lee, Estrada, Wade, Flores...
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while...
LOL