AAA Nashville Sounds topped the Fresno Grizzlies 4-3:
Conor Gillaspie(3B)- 1 for 3, BB, 2 SB(3). BA= .289.
Cal Eldred(1B)- 2 for 3, HR(3), SB(4). BA= .286.
Doug Mathis(RHP)- 7 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 4 K's. ERA= 4.15.
Steve Edlefsen(RHP)- 1 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 0 BB, 1 K. ERA= 5.40.
Cal Eldred is apparently trying to channel Rickey Henderson. Gillaspie is not particularly fast either and he stole 2. I'll say it again. That stuff won't work at the MLB level. Darren Ford in a 0-0 tie? OK. Running everybody all the time? Uh-uh!
Bowie Baysox edged the Richmond Flying Squirrels 6-5:
Roger Kieschnick(RF)- 2 for 4, 2 2B, BB. BA= .200.
Juan Perez(CF)- 2 for 4, BB, SB(6). BA= .230.
Nick Noonan(SS)- 1 for 4, 2B, BB. BA= .247.
Ryan Verdugo(LHP)- 4.2 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 2 BB, 6 K's. ERA= 3.03.
Kieschnick has 2 hits in 3 of his last 4 games.
A+ San Jose Giants downed the Lancaster Jethawks 5-2:
Gary Brown(CF)- 1 for 4, 2B. BA= .363.
Brandon Crawford(SS)- 2 for 4, 3B. BA= .500.
Hector Sanchez(C)- 2 for 4, 2B. BA= .284.
Jarrett Parker(RF)- 2 for 4, 2B. BA= .238.
Chris Dominguez(3B)- 2 for 4, 2 SB(5). BA= .275.
Zack Wheeler(RHP)- 5 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 4 BB, 7 K's. ERA= 3.66.
Chuck Lofgren(LHP)- 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K's. ERA= 0.00.
Crawford should be on a rehab assignment and not stay with SJ very long. I would think his destination for this year is Fresno. Dominguez had been scuffling, moved down in the order and showed off some speed. Lofgren was highly touted prospect in the Cleveland Indians organization. He's a local kid drafted out of HS in 2004 who fell on hard times the last couple of years. He's hooked up with the Giants organization, presumably the team he grew up rooting for. If anybody can help him turn it around, it would seem to be the Giants.
Low A Rome Braves topped the Augusta Greenjackets 5-2:
Robert Haney(SS)- 2 for 3, 2B, HBP. BA= .290.
Adam Duvall(3B)- 2 for 4, HR(6). BA= .260.
Chris Lofton(CF)- 2 for 3, BB. BA= .218.
Shawn Sanford(RHP)- 5 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K's, GO/AO= 10/2. ERA= 3.27.
Edward Concepcion(RHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K's. ERA= 4.32.
Duvall is on a .306/.405/.611 tear over his last 10 games. Lofton is hitting .333 over his last 10.
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Edlefsen had 2 outs in the 8th, when it all came apart...single, if out which moved the runner to second, a doink single...runner was going and then scored....2 run bomb...ess happens
ReplyDeleteas for the running...why are you being such a downer? is what decker is doing going to translate to the majors? not exactly...but it does help the hitters with more situational hitting...and puts more guys in scoring position
decker likes to win....winning feeds positivity on the roster....positive attitudes assist with development
decker doesnt have much of a rotation or pen...but what is going on, on the field, seems to be helping them too...except for hinshaw, who i predict will be taken off of the 40 man in a month
its almost 90 percent that casilla will be doing his rehab in sj...as fresno will be in memphis for the weekend...and its time for the baby g's to get a couple of steak dinners
I'm not clear on how little league baseball helps hitters with "situational hitting" whatever that is.
ReplyDeleteSorry, that was me commenting above. Must have gotten a default account switched with my wife or something.
ReplyDeleteWhen I see or hear the term "situational hitting" the first thing I think of is giving up an out to advance a runner or at least some other change in approach at the plate than usual because of a specific situation in the game. Specific "situations" that come to mind include hitting to the right side of a baserunner, sacrifice bunting, or hitting a sacrifice fly. Most of these "situations" increase the chances of making an out. The perceived gain is advancing a runner or runners.
Giving up outs to advance baserunners is almost never a good idea. Did you know that MLB teams actually score ONE run with a runner on first and no outs more often than with a runner on second and 1 out? Think about that for a minute! The two situations I can think of where it is probably a good idea to give up an out is 1. When you have a single runner at 3B with less than 2 outs late in a game where you are tied or down by a run. 2. A runner at 2B with no outs late in a game where getting them to 3B with 1 out opens up the possibility of them scoring without a basehit.
What usually works a lot better is the type of situational hitting we've seen the last 2 nights: 1. Cody Ross smoking one down the 3B line with Ford on 2B. Would it have been smarter for Ross to hit a grounder to 2B to advance the runner? 2. Andres Torres crushing one up Triples Alley with Tejada on 3B.
Unless the hitter is trying to make an out, which is almost never a good thing, you just want him to hit it as hard as he can wherever he can.
As for SB's, we've explained this one before several times but we'll do it again. SB's are a net negative unless you are successful more than 75-80% of the time, the reason being that a CS hurts the team a lot more than a successful SB helps the team.
ReplyDeleteArrgh!! Did it again! I think I have it fixed now.
ReplyDeleteJust another note:
Kevin Frandsen was busted for PED use. In this case it was Ritalinic Acid(probably some form of Ritalin). Apparently he was using without a Dr's note. This is really sad. Kevin must be feeling desperate as he sees the dream slipping away. As I've said before, Kevin Frandsen is an example of just how good you have to be to stick in the majors, and a bit lucky too. Kevin had some bad breaks and was not able to take advantage of the limited opportunities he had.
I'd call stealing something of a "value-added" type deal. It's not simply the stolen base, at a rate of 65% or 70%. It's being a pest. It's making the pitcher work on holding the runner. Slide-stepping when he'd rather not. That sort of thing. It affects pitchers. You also force the defense to make a good play. They pay with an extra base on a bad throw into center. Also, misthrown pick-off attempts result in one or two extra bases. Base-stealers make the defense work.
ReplyDeleteSituational hitting is not necessarily giving up an out. Sometimes sacrifice bunts are hits or errors. Rarely, admittedly.
Sometimes deep fly balls leave the park. Again, not often, but sometimes.
I think the most important situational hitting is hitting behind the runner so he can advance. Man on 2nd, no outs, is the classic. Say you have a .300 hitter up there when just swinging away. If he adjusts his approach to hit to the right side, he is not automatically giving up an out. Is he still a .300 hitter trying to smack the ball to the right side? No. But he's not a .000 hitter. He may fall to a .220 hitter trying to hit to the right. But now an out could benefit the team.
There is value to these things beyond what Sabermetrics can measure.
who cares if that much stealing translates to the majors or not? if they are successful at the level they are playing at, and it helps them win games, then they should go crazy. you are strangely obsessed with this subject. they are trying to win games there too, right?
ReplyDeleteAnon,
ReplyDeleteBut if by winning these games in the minor leagues, you are teaching these kids bad habits, you are doing a dis-service to both the player AND the organization.
This is only assuming he is sending guys in spots where they would not be running at higher levels. It may be that he is instilling aggressive play and the runners are actually looking for their spots (which would naturally occur more often at the lower levels).
Kelly,
I agree 100%. Sabermetrics is VERY important, but they only tell a portion of the story. Collateral damage is never caught in sbaermetrics.
To me, DrB's point is that stealing bases like this will not translate to the major league level. I think he's trying to curb the tendency of some fans to see this and think that Cal Eldred, for example, should be brought up to the majors and take over for Darren Ford, say.
ReplyDeleteHe's also made the point that outs are bad, in almost any case that you can bring up. Sabermetrics has long held this, whether it be CS, strikeouts, or even "productive" outs, which moves up runners. Those outs are costly in the long run if done indiscriminately, but is OK in certain key leveraged situations, like when you need it to win the game.
And I agree with calsnowskier, if this is just being done willy-nilly, then it would just be a case of teaching kids bad habits. I'm hoping that this is just part of the Giants Way going forward, as the commenter noted, teach them to be aggressive in running the bases, without giving up outs. Neither Schierholtz or Ishikawa will ever win speed races or steal 20 bases, but both were rated highly on Bill James baserunning metric in 2009 because they took the extra base when possible as a runner. I am assuming the Giants are teaching skills like that by having the baserunners, many of whom are not used to this style, get practice in AAA by running like this. I would love to get a Giants official explain this to the public.