Sunday, August 17, 2014

Down on the Farm: 8/16/0214

AAA  Colorado Springs Sky Sox crushed the Fresno Grizzlies 10-0:


AA  Portland Sea Dogs squeaked by the Richmond Flying Squirrels 1-0 in 10 innings:

Clayton Blackburn(RHP)- 8 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 11 K's.  ERA= 2.87.

Blackburn sets a new personal record for K's in a game and pitches what is probably the most dominant game of his pro career so far.

High A  Stockton Ports outslugged the San Jose Giants 14-10:

Daniel Carbonell(CF)- 1 for 5, 2B, BB, Assist(home).  BA= .343.
Brian Ragira(1B)- 3 for 4, 2B, HR(15), BB.  BA= .250.
Tyler Horan(RF)- 3 for 5, 2 2B, Assist(3B).  BA= .320.
Chuckie Jones(DH)- 2 for 4, HR(14), BB.  BA= .255.

Chuckie Jones has hit 4 HR's in his last 10 games.  Ragira is 6 for 8 with 3 dingers in his last 2 games.

Low A  Augusta Greenjackets blanked the Asheville Tourists 5-0:

Rafael Rodriguez(LF)- 2 for 5.  BA= .285.
Craig Massoni(DH)- 2 for 3, 2B, BB.  BA= .280.
Randy Ortiz(CF)- 2 for 4, SB(6).  BA= .248.
Steve Messner(LHP)- 7 IP, 1 H,  0 R, 1 BB, 4 K's.  ERA= 4.18.
Ray Black(RHP)- 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K's.  ERA= 3.86.

Short Season- Boise Hawks topped the Salem-Keizer Volcanoes 4-1:

Christian Arroyo(SS)- 2 for 4.  BA= .320.
Skyler Ewing(1B)- 2 for 4, HR(6).  BA= .299.
Keury Mella(RHP)- 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K's.  ERA= 0.00.

Rookie AZL  Giants were idle.

DSL  Giants defeated the Rojos(Reds) 5-0:

Victor Concepcion(RHP, 17 yo)- 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 7 K's.  ERA= 3.18.
Weilly Yan(RHP, 18 yo)- 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 4 K's.  ERA= 3.81.


  1. Blackburn is back on the scene, and in a BIG way. He also looks like he's lost some weight to me, which is a great sign for a guy that's been on the shelf quite a bit this year. Messner out-dueled Kyle Freeland last night in the performance of his short pro career.

    One team I haven't focused a ton on this year is San Jose... but that is starting to change. All of a sudden, that is a pretty solid lineup. Ragira, Carbonell, Chuckie and Horan have been red hot. It'll be very interesting to see who takes it to the next level in Richmond next year. I think you mentioned this the other day DrB, but Horan looks like he could very well be on the Duffy express track. An OF combination of Mac, Horan, Carbonell, Chuckie and Jesus Galindo in AA could be fun to follow next year. Too many talented players, not enough spots is a good problem to have.

    1. I looked up Blackburn's bio page on He's listed at 6'3", 260 lbs. Yikes! We're talking Pablo Sandoval in the worst shape of his life here! If that's what he was at the beginning of the season, it explains a lot. He certainly did not look that big in the video I saw from yesterday's game.

      Horan is a guy I picked out when I was Scouting the 2014 draft and was thrilled the Giants drafted him in the 8'th round that year. Even better is my scouting eye is being validated by his pro performances. Yeah, Giants are suddenly getting to a surplus of serious OF prospects. Good problem to have. Kind of like how the emergence of Adrianza, Duffy and Panik in the middle infield suddenly makes Brandon Crawford possibly expendable.

  2. DocB, I think Pablito tipped 280lbs last year.

    Blackburn is one of many reasons I am glad we did not trade out of our future potential starters from the minors. Yeah, overall some letdown from the first of the year when we were puffing on dominant starting rotations five deep at every level. Okay so not everyone shines, some get injured, and some stumble and stall at a higher level. We only need 2-3 starters by 2016, still plenty of pickles left in the barrel. And I say keep them there to brine.

    Nice to see some low minors hitters stepping up. I do like that the Giants seem to be able to recognize and reward young disciplined hitters with fast track promotions. If they show they can perform why not bring 'em along. With Pagan's health an annual question, LF a mess, SS in ?, 3B most likely gone for big $$$, and bench depth a wasteland, the Giants have room for yoots.

  3. I have come around on Panda. I really think we need to sign him. If it takes 20mm/year, then fine. At this point, our offense next year is:


    The question marks are LF, 3B and SS. We have Duffy, EA and Crawford at the latter, but Duffy doesn't seem to have the same level of defense as the other two (least from reading about him). I would love EA to take that bell, and then maybe you can trade Crawford and leave Arias and Duffy as your platoon guys. In LF, we have a bunch of guys who might be able to step in--Parker (if his hitting translates), Brown/Pagan (only if Brown can hit and then Pagan moves) or Carbonell. If we're really lucky, those three make up our starter and two back ups.

    We have NO one at 3b. Duvall doesn't have the defense (and maybe not the bat). You have a couple of guys in A who might be ok, but they are 2-3 years off. We are not going to find anyone as a FA without paying them too much, so let's play a guy we know, with weaknesses we know, and hope for a bit of a hometown discount.

    I think we can make due on pitching without any major signings. I get the sense the Giants may sign Peavy to a one year deal. His pitching for us has been solid with 3 QS since he came over. We have Blach, Blackburn and Crick, who should hopefully be ready to go by mid season (Crick is wild but young so let's hope he settles down). Heston and Fleet I think are both potentially an upgrade of Petit (so we have one at the big club and one in the minors as protection). We have tons of arms to fill out the pen with Cordier and Strickland. So we have guys to fill in for Peavy, Hudson and Timmy and expiring contracts. That gives other guys (Flores, Mella, Beede) time to mature in case Cain doesn't come back.

    If we go this route, we spend the money on Morse for Panda. Vogey's contract is about the same as Peavy's for next year. So the payroll increase is about $10mm or so, but Scutaro comes off he books next year and with EA maybe taking over for Crawford, we don't have a big contract for a bit. Pagan is off the books in two and with the OFs coming up, maybe that is more flexibility. We also may not be pressed to sign Belt, and can move Posey if Susac, Sanchez and Garcia can cover.

    I think our farm system is better than advertised, and the whole as suddenly moved from SS/2b to 3b, where Panda has become "it" for a while.

    1. The Panda is the 6th best 3B by WAR score this year, with highly paid guys like Wright, Longoria and Zimmerman lagging. Donaldson and Beltre are the obvious guys, then Kyle Seager (I think a lot of the hype surrounding the Dodgers Seager is fueled by Seager's success). Josh Harrison on Pittsburgh is a nice success story, and then oft-injured Anthony Rendon. Frazier, Arenado and Carpenter are up there with the Panda, but his defense WAR score wins the day. He still doesn't kill it in slugging percentage, but he's been a natural 300 hitter all year after the yips over contract talks.

      If the Giants can add him and have flexibility to do other things, then its worth it. But if they make their move and then can't do anything else, then I'm not so sure. Sabean can be pretty rigid with budget, its sometimes hard to know how much is ownership and how much of it is the Greybeards conservative nature with things.

      If Pablo plays good defense and hits the power alleys and beyond, its worth it. If he's fat and lagging, its not. There's huge risk there, and I bet one team out there will take the chance big time. Unless the Gigantes do their usual and swoop in before he's on the open market. I don't know what kind of compromise they can get though. Maybe options triggered by weight clauses? I doubt that Sandoval & Co will go for that though.

  4. Hey, the 3B to watch is Richard Rodriguez hitting .410 with a .982 OPS for July. Panda relief? Only problem, he's in the DSL.

    1. Rich Rod - oh boy, that's a terrible nickname - is 21 1/2 years old. While I don't get all age/level hyped, that is extremely old, and I'd have to call him a non-prospect... unless the Giants skipped him to High-A or beyond next year.

    2. I think Shark was making a joke.

      BTW, I have not included RichRod's name in most of my DSL summaries because I assume he is a non-prospect due to age vs level concerns until proven otherwise. If he shows up next year in a stateside lineup, I will have to change my entire approach to evaluating the DSL.

    3. If there's one place to go age/level, DSL seems good. The lineup this year trends extremely old, and they are doing quite well in the standings. Not sure if that's an intentional org thing or not. Concepcion is the youngest pitcher in the org, along with Logan Webb. He's doing nice things, very worth a watch.

    4. Yes, it was a joke. Unfortunately, the real joke is that the Giants have no one in the system ready to take Panda's spot, much less production.

    5. I don't agree with your second joke here, Shark. No system has a ready made replacement for every position. 3B is thin all over baseball which is part of the reason why Sandoval is going to get paid. The Giants farm system is doing just fine. They have a tough decision to make about Sandoval. Remember, Cardinals fans did not think there was a replacement for Pujols either, and there really wasn't. They found a way to win with what they had left and what they were able to add in other areas.

  5. Well the more I see of Susec the more I like the option of moving Buster to 3rd if needed. If Posey keeps having the batting splits he has when playing 1B compared to when he catches, he may need to be moved from behind the plate anyway. Weird stats can happen but the trend has a pretty good sample size.