AAA Tucson Padres defeated the Fresno Grizzlies 7-5:
Conor Gillaspie(1B)- 2 for 2, 3 BB. BA= .329.
Francisco Peguero(CF)- 2 for 5. BA= .247.
Charlie Culberson(2B)- 2 for 5, 3B. BA= .261.
Skyler Stromsmoe(SS)- 2 for 4, 2B. BA= .259.
Brad Penny(RHP)- 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 2 K's. ERA= 7.71.
Dan Runzler(LHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K. ERA= 6.00.
Pegs is hitting .311 with a .467 SLG% over his last 10 games. His OBP in that span is lower than his BA. Still haven't quite figured out how that's possible, but it is. Penny has an opt out clause coming up so Giants are gonna have to fish or cut bait with him. Shane Loux's performance of late may be the opening they need. Penny's stuff has reportedly looked better than his results, but that's been true of him for a long time.
AA New Britain Rock Cats beat the Richmond Flying Squirrels 7-3:
Gary Brown(CF)- 2 for 5, HR(3). BA= .257.
Juan Perez(RF)- 2 for 4, HR(5). BA= .293.
Russell Mitchell(LF)- 2 for 4, 2B. BA= .269.
Brown has an 8 game hit streak with 5 consecutive multi-hit games. He is hitting .354/.392/.479 over his last 10 games.
High A Visalia Rawhide topped the San Jose Giants 6-5:
Chris Lofton(CF)- 2 for 5. BA= .262.
Joe Panik(DH)- 2 for 3, 2 BB, SB(4, home). BA= .271.
Ryan Lollis(RF)- 3 for 4, 2B, HR(4). BA= .311.
Ricky Oropesa(1B)- 1 for 4, 2B. BA= .277.
Ryan Bradley(LHP)- 6.1 IP, 10 H, 4 R, 2 BB, 7 K's. ERA= 4.02.
Low A Augusta Greenjackets edged the Savannah Sand Gnats 2-1:
Brett Krill(RF)- 4 for 4, 3B. BA= .239.
Adalberto Mejia(LHP)- 6 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 5 K's. ERA= 4.95.
Kyle Vazquez(RHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K's, Save(4). ERA= 8.44.
6 innings of no-hit ball for Mejia who has a line of 3-1, 1.82, 29.2 IP, 7 BB, 26 K's. over his last 10 appearances. In two starts since re-joining the rotation, he has allowed just 1 run in 10 IP with 4 BB, and 12 K's. In Blacburn, Crick and Mejia, the Giants have 3 pitchers dominating their level at under age 20. A 4'th starter for Augusta, Edwin Escobar is 20 yo. Krill is hitting .333/.355/.500 over his last 10 games.
Short Season Yakima Bears blanked the Salem-Keizer Volcanoes 2-0:
Dashenko Ricardo(C)- 3 for 3, 2B. BA= .333.
Mario Rodriquez(LHP)- 5 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 3 K's. ERA= 0.90.
Rookie AZL Giants came from behind to out hit the Angels 10-9:
Randy Ortiz(CF)- 3 for 5, 3B, SB(3). BA= .316.
Hector Mercedes(RF)- 3 for 5, 2B, 3B. BA= .462.
Cristian Paulino(2B)- 2 for 4, Sac, SB(2). BA= .250.
Shilo McCall(LF)- 2 for 4, 2B, SB(1). BA= .250.
Bryce Bandilla(LHP)- 3 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 4 K's. ERA= 1.80.
Brandon Farley(RHP)- 1.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K. ERA= 3.86.
Chris Fern(LHP)- 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K's. ERA= 0.00.
Jason Forjet(RHP)- 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, Save(1). ERA= 0.00.
Ortiz put up good numbers in the DSL last year. This is Mercedes' age 20 season. He put up sub .200 BA's the last 2 years in the DSL. Nice size at 6'3", 188 lbs. Maybe the Giants saw something that the numbers don't tell you? McCall gets his first professional hits. Bandilla has just one BB in 5 IP since re-starting his season with the Baby Giants.
DSL Giants were idle as usual on Sundays.
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"6 innings of no-hit ball for Mejia who has a line of 3-1, 1.82, 29.2 IP, 7 BB, 26 K's. over his last 10 appearances. In two starts since re-joining the rotation, he has allowed just 1 run in 10 IP with 4 BB, and 12 K's. In Blacburn, Crick and Mejia, the Giants have 3 pitchers dominating their level at under age 20. A 4'th starter for Augusta, Edwin Escobar is 20 yo."
ReplyDeleteRealistically, which of the above do you feel could slide in behind Bumgarner 2-3 years from now when Vogey's gone? I guess you have to throw in Stratton, too, but do you feel like he and one of the above could be solid 3 and 4 in a rotation?
Realistically, I think all of these young pitchers in Augusta, while they have great upside, will take at least 2 more years to be ready for MLB. Stratton might end up breaking in before any of them and there's always Heston and/or Surkamp who will be ready much sooner but have lower ceilings. Of the Augusta trio, Blackburn seems to have the command to move the fastest.
DeleteIf I were going to rank the top 5 starters in the Giants System right now the order would look like this...
ReplyDelete1. Stratton - will be MLB ready if all goes well in 2014. I think he is your number 4 starter going forward with the upside of a number two.
2. Kyle Crick - Can touch 99mph with his fastball but will sit 94-97 from reports. Already working on a changeup but is still a long way from reaching his true potential. He has better stats (though only slightly) than Zach Wheeler had at the same point in Augusta. Plus he is a year younger than Zach was.
3. Blackburn - When we drafted him he was 88-91 with the fastball. I heard he sits 91-93 now and can touch 95. That profiles as a number 2-3. With his above average command he might just move quickly too.
4. Martin Agosta - (Once he signs). I can't wait to see him pitch next year.
5. Mejia - He has age on his side. He is under 20 and dominating (at least recently). 6'3 and around 200 pounds and may not be done growing. Good article on him here...
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120624&content_id=33859198&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb
That very well could be your starting 5 next year in San Jose as well. Though pitchers like Bandilla and Escobar might have something to say about that.
I'm curious as to who others think are the top 5 starting pitchers in the Giants system right now as well.
No love for Heston?
DeleteI like your top 5 but I also think that heston deserves to be in there for the way he has pitched this year
DeleteSo you don't believe that Surkamp will ever get healthy or do you think that he's below 5th?
DeleteI agree with slc_giant's list, except I would put Mejia above Agosta. Heston and Surkamp both have much lower ceilings than any of the 5 on his list.
DeleteWhats the ceiling on Agosta in your opinion DrB?
DeleteOh my gosh, I just took at look at that link - thanks - and Mejia looks like he's in his mid-40's to me!
DeleteThanks DrB, wanted to get a feel for where all these guys fit in against Surkamp. That's pretty good considering that he was our top starter in the system at the start of the season.
I like Heston, but while his K/BB is great, his K/9 is not even higher than 9.0, and he's 24 YO, which is basically the average age in the league. At best, at the rate he's going, he'll be Reuter-like in the majors, because he doesn't strike out that much. His main star power in the majors will probably relate more to his roots - he's related to Charlton - than his feats there. That's why he's never ranked in BA's Top 30 prospects for the Giants, and he was #40 on DrB's list. As DrB noted, he should put up better numbers in the EL because it's a pitcher's league.
Looking at prior 24 YO with similar BB and K rates and ratios, Josh Tomlin was very similar in 2009, and in 49 games, almost all starts, since, he has a 4.50 ERA. I think that is currently Heston's high end of possibilities if he made the majors, he would have to push his K-rate higher in 2013 with AAA for me to place him higher in potentialities.
And I like scrappers like Heston, they can add value to almost any team, but on our team, he's at best trade bait that Sabean will use to pick up a player he feels we need to win that season.
Well, Heston's K/9 is not much below 9 and he is a fairly extreme GB pitcher so he does have some things going for him. He's never going to rank as high as kid who brings it in the mid to upper 90's though.
DeleteAskmr25: If Agosta can continue to throw his FB in the low-mid 90's and can polish up his secondary stuff and command, he can be a much as a #2 starter but more likely a #3.
DrB is Crick our only prospect that profiles as an ace?
DeleteIt's not that I don't like Heston or Surkamp I just don't think either profiles more than a back end starter at the best. If I was doing a top 10 list of starters I think Surkamp would make the list around 7. With his injury to start the year he has fallen a bit for me. Plus I think the other 5 on this list are just a bit better even if they are further way from reaching their potential.
DeleteHeston may be number 10 or just off the list for me. Roger over on the McCovey Chronicles saw Heston pitch today and he was sitting 87-89 with his fastball. That doesn't profile all that well to the majors despite his success this year. He might make a good short reliever that can dial it up to the low 90's someday.
Without seeing Agosta or Mejia pitch all I can go off is the scouting reports. 6'3 lefty's who can sit 90-92 with their fastball are worth their weight in gold so I might agree to move him up ahead of Agosta. I just haven't read a scouting report that suggest he can maintain that velocity. I love the scouting reports I have seen on Agosta. Sits 92 with the fastball and has solid to MLB above average curve and change-up. Which is why I ranked him ahead of Mejia. Now if I get a first hand scouting report that says Mejia is holding 92 deep into his starts then I might move him up to number three on this list.
I would say Crick has the highest ceiling of the Giants pitching prospects, but has some hurdles to overcome to reach it. I think debates about whether a pitcher is a #1 or 2 or a 4 or 5 might be splitting hairs more than need be. I think any of the top 5 that slc listed could conceivably end up as a #1 if everything breaks right for them, but Crick seems to have a clear advantage in velocity. Velocity isn't everything but given two pitchers of equal skill, you take the one with the higher velocity tool without question.
DeleteOBP can be lower than BA by having less walks than sacrifices (flies and hits), not sure what the ratio would be, but it typically happens to players who do not walk very much, usually not at all, making it very simple: no walk, at least one sacrifice fly or hit, resulting in OBP < BA, because same number of on-bases either way, but PA > BA.
ReplyDeleteI knew it was something like that. Thanks for clearing that up.
Deletenp, glad to help out.
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