Friday, June 27, 2014

Down on the Farm: 6/26/2014

AAA  Fresno Grizzlies blanked the Salt Lake City Bees 8-0:

Gary Brown(CF)- 2 for 3, BB, SF, 2 SB(13).  BA= .270.
Tony Abreu(2B)-2 for 5, SB(1).  BA= .293.
Andrew Susac(Catcher)- 2 for 4, BB.  BA= .276.
Darren Ford(RF)- 2 for 3, 2 2B, BB.  BA= .324.
Mike Kickham(LHP)- 8.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 9 K's.  ERA= 3.68.

Is it just me or does Gary Brown seem to be slowly getting his mojo back over the past couple of weeks?  Mike Kickham has a dominant start.  7 of his last 10 starts have been QS with the last 2 dominant.  Will the Giants try Abreu at 2B again?

AA  Richmond Flying Squirrels defeated the Bowie Baysox 4-2:

Kelby Tomlinson(SS)- 2 for 3, BB, 2 SB(30).  BA= .251.
Myles Schroder(Catcher)- 2 for 3, 2 2B.  BA= .257.
Austin Fleet(RHP)- 6.2 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 5 K's.  ERA= 3.38.
Jose Casilla(RHP)- 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K's.  ERA= 3.30.
Cody Hall(RHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, Save(8).  ERA= 2.91.

High A  Visalia Rawhide beat the San Jose Giants 6-2:

Chuckie Jones(RF)- 2 for 5.  BA= .256.
Brandon Belt(DH)- 1 for 3.  BA= .333.
Stephen Johnson(RHP)- 2.2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K's.  ERA= 3.28.
Tyler Rogers(RHP)- 2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K's.  ERA= 2.56.
Tyler Mizenko(RHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K's.  ERA= 2.79.

Belt has a successful rehab debut.

Low A  Augusta Greenjackets whitewashed the Rome Braves 7-0:

Ryder Jones(3B)- 2 for 4, 2B, BB, SB(3).  BA= .247.
Tyler Horan(RF)- 3 for 3, HR(8), BB.  BA= .266.
Steven Messner(LHP)- 8 IP, 8 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K's, GO/AO= 14/4.  ERA= 3.44.
Ray Black(RHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K's.  ERA= 2.20.

The big news here is that Keury Mella's turn in the rotation got skipped due to an undisclosed injury.

Short Season  Salem-Keizer Volcanoes topped the Eugene Emeralds 5-2:

Christian Arroyo(SS)- 2 for 5, 2B.  BA= .150.
Ryan Jones(DH)- 2 for 5, 2B.  BA= .308.
Jonathan Jones(1B)- 2 for 3, 2B, BB.  BA= .179.
Ethan Miller(RHP)- 6 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 5 K.  ERA= 5.65.
Ian Gardeck(RHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 3 K's. ERA= 1.35.
Raymundo Montero(RHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K's, Save(1).  ERA= 0.00.

Arroyo back from DL.  He's gotten HBP on the same knuckle twice this season.  Ouch!

Rookie AZL  Giants were idle.

DSL  Giants crushed the Nationals 19-4:

Mikey Edie(CF)- 2 for 4, HR(1), 2 HBP.  BA= .276.
Robinson Medrano(RF)- 1 for 4, 2B, 2 BB.  BA= .326.
Manuel Geraldo(SS)- 0 for 3, 2 HBP.  BA= .187.
Kelvin Beltre(PH)- 1 for 1.  BA= .224.
Prebito Reyes(LHP)- 6 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 5 K's.  ERA= 6.23.
Deiyerbert Bolivar(LHP)- 3 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K's.  ERA= 3.00.


  1. It's just one game, but assuming Duvall can hit at the major league level, what do we do with him? Guessing he's not mobile enough for the outfield or the Giants would have already been trying him there in AAA. He'd probably hit more HR's than Belt if he played 1B but might not measure up in other hitting categories. Who knows what will happen with Sandoval, of course. This is all premature, but isn't this type of conversation what makes it fun to follow prospects? :-)


  2. Even though most people say we have a barren wasteland of position players I believe that is definitely not true. I agree the system did take a shot in the mouth over Mac Williamson being out for a year and no progression. But I believe players like Mitch Delfino, Matt Duffy and Blake Miller could be real players. Obviously we will see what happens in the next year or so. The kind of numbers that Matt Duffy is putting up in the EL are no mirage. This kid can flat out hit. Unlikely he will hit .340 in the MLB but to say he can hit for average is pretty projectable.

    I believe we should let Pablo Sandoval do what he needs to do. I would not be against resigning him but I would not want to go above 4 years/$80 million. His power numbers are severely down. He did have that hot stretch a few weeks ago but he has cooled down. I do not think he is a $100 million player.

    Duvall is a tricky player. Where will he play? Is he an everyday player? I have no idea. I think he is Brett Pill 2.0 with a little better contact. I think he would be a good bench player and also be able to spell Belt once in a while and DH in interleague. I do not see him as a replacement for Pablo. I think this offseason he needs to spend all of his time in LF. If Pat Burrell and Mike Morse can do alright out there then I think he could learn. Mike Morse may see some offers better than ours in the offseason and it would be good for him to be an option out there.

    Vogelsong will most likely be out of here next year. I think we should add a piece to the rotation before the trade deadline. I do not think Jason Hammel is the answer. I would have no problem with trading Crick and a few decent prospects for Price or Samardzija. They are both controllable for one more year and we could flip them next year for a decent amount of prospects if we fall out of the race.

    1. Agreed with ALL of this. However, if not Sandoval or Duvall, the what the heck are the Giants going to do? Sandoval's power and presence in the lineup - when the Giants are right - cannot be simply allowed to leave without filling that gap PROPERLY.

    2. Interesting dialogue. Price's velocity is down 2-3 MPH. And he's giving up hits and HRs at a big rate. 3rd most hits in the show currently. And a absolutely historic K/BB ratio to counterbalance. Personally I'm sick of seeing Giants pitchers give up hits, and especially home runs. Price's contract demands are going to start at the Cole Hamels contract and go up, plus he's a 20MM pitcher for 2015. The Giants have a lot of future commitments already.

      Here is the thing with our prospects, no matter how they are currently performing: young controllable pitching is the name of the game. The Giants are holding big time cards, you might not hear about them with the top 100 lists, but pitchers young for their leagues is what makes saber oriented front offices drool. Andrew Susac and his big OBP profile is also what makes for big value. Don't buy into the hype that our prospects aren't worth a lot.

      With Pablo... Here are his OPS by year, we all know the drama and the ups/downs, but this is a cold reality coming at you:
      2009 (first full year) 943
      2010 732
      2011 909
      2012 789
      2013 758
      2014 733

      Is Pablo going to suddenly swing it into gear and go bashing 950 again? The Giants are crazy enough to make 35MM bets on Timmy doing it, but they did get some blood from the stone: its only 2 years. So I don't see them going more than 3 years at a big number, and if he continues his quest for more than Pence they'll quietly give him the QO and make other plans.

  3. The name that comes to mind is Martin Prado. Not a very sexy name but is a good player and can either play 3B or 2B. Is controllable for 2015 and 2016 for $11MM each. I am sure with the right package Arizona would let him go. We cannot let Pablo leverage himself for this big payday that is unreasonable for our future. We will need some kind of a loyalty discount with all of the BS we have put up with (weight issues).

    1. I wouldn't mind, I just don't ever see the D-backs trading intradivision. Also LaRussa wouldn't help us out either, the guy has always had it out for the Good Guys in French Vanilla.

      From your previous post about Price re Sabean flipping him? Brian Sabean doesn't do prospect trades. Just win baby, leave that prospect accumulation crap for smarter GMs.

  4. Leake sinker and curved balled the Giants into submission yesterday and yet it seemed like the Giants batters kept looking for fastballs, which was sparse at best. The Giants have a few guys that can clear the fence, but they are running low on rabbits that can get on base ahead of the boomers....

    I agree that Price is starting to show wear and tear, but Sabean has this thing about personalities, which I believe that Price wouldn't fit.

    Pretty hard to judge Duvall and cast him as a bench player? The only time since the Greenjackets he has hit less than 20 HRs was Richmond. Folks, Richmond and that heavy wet air back there is really tough on a hitter. I played American Legion in in smaller parks in VA, NC, SC and GA and distance shots are at a minimum.. Richmond's park is one of the worse parks in that EL... I was really impressed he hit 17 round trippers in the EL...Hopefully, since Williamson, Mac Deacon played there in college, it should be advantage for him.


  5. Hey!

    I'm a reader of your blog and am a big fan, thanks for your work! I've been following Gary Brown since he was drafted. Worked in single A ball and got to see A LOT of him early on in the minors. As a huge Giants fan he quickly became my favorite player, but things have sadly not panned out as many had hoped. However, I do see that the potential is still there. With Panik and Duvall getting the promotion before him has me worried...what are your thoughts on his future as a Giant? Hoping to see him this year, but my instincts tell me the Giants are beginning to turn their back on him...