Sunday, June 7, 2015

Down on the Farm: 6/6/2015

AAA  Sacramento River Cats defeated the Tacoma Rainiers 4-2:

Jarrett Parker(LF)- 0 for 1, 3 BB.  BA= .271.
Trevor Brown(Catcher)- 1 for 3, 2B, HBP.  BA= .280.
Jake Peavy(RHP)- 4.1 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 5 K's.  ERA= 8.00.
Jack Snodgrass(LHP)- 3.2 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K's.  ERA= 0.00.
Erik Cordier(RHP)- 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, Save(2).  ERA= 1.59.

Peavy's start was better than his last one.  Snodgrass has a successful AAA debut.


AA  Richmond Flying Squirrels topped the New Hampshire Fisher Cats 7-3:

Ricky Oropesa(1B)- 2 for 3, BB.  BA= .274.
Mitch Delfino(3B)- 4 for 4.  BA= .270.
Jackson Williams(Catcher)- 2 for 4, 3B.  BA= .226.
Engel Beltre(CF)- 1 for 3, Sac, SB(1).  BA= .200.
Kyle Crick(RHP)- 3 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 6 BB, 2 K's.  ERA= 1.88.
Phil McCormick(LHP)- 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K's.  ERA= 2.50.
Josh Osich(LHP)- 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K's.  ERA= 1.73.

Jackson Williams is hitting .353 over his last 10 games.  OK, I'm officially concerned about Kyle Crick.    Anybody see this one?  Is it that he can't hit the broadside of a barn, or is he trying to hit corners and not getting calls from the umps?  I mean, he did make it through 3 full innings and allowed just 1 run, but that's a heckuva way to go about it!  And, you can't be a starting pitcher and burn up that many pitches per inning on a regular basis.


High A  High Desert Mavericks overran the San Jose Giants 10-2:

Martin Agosta(RHP)- 6 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 0 BB, 8 K's, GO/AO= 5/1.  ERA= 5.83.

Hey!  Agosta was just trying to be like Madison Bumgarner!  Agosta has 46 K's against 13 BB's in 42.1 IP so far this season.


Low A  Lexington Legends outscored the Augusta Greenjackets 13-7:

Johneshwy Fargas(CF)- 2 for 4, BB, 2 SB(25).  BA= .291.
Aramis Garcia(Catcher)- 1 for 3, 2 BB.  BA= .228.
Skyler Ewing(DH)- 1 for 4, 3B, BB.  BA= .211.
Jeremy Sy(SS)- 2 for 4, 2B, SB(7).  BA= .219.
Andrew Cain(LF)- 1 for 2, HR(4), 2 BB.  BA= .193.
Matt Gage(LHP)- 5 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 0 BB, 9 K's.  ERA= 4.38.

Are we starting to see a pattern in the organizational SP lines?


DSL Giants beat the Orioles2 10-4:

Manuel Geraldo(SS, 18 yo)- 2 for 5, HR(1).  BA= .345.
Sandro Fabian(RF, 17 yo)- 0 for 2, 2 BB.  BA= .261.
Mecky Coronado(DH, 18 yo)- 3 for 4, 2B, BB.  BA= .478.
Robert Antunez(2B, 19 yo)- 2 for 3, BB, 3 SB(5).  BA= .600.
Victor Concepcion(RHP, 18 yo)- 5.1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 9 K.  ERA= 1.59.

Geraldo and Concepcion are two kids who I am surprised did not make it to Arizona this year.  Mecky Coronado is a bit of an enigma as he continues to rake and continues to play the DH position.  Anybody see what this kid looks like?  I'm envisioning something along the lines of Pablo Sandoval and Angel Villalona only less athletic.


  1. I have said my concerns about Crick on Mr. ogc's latest post and I'll copy it here if haven't read it yet.

    "In my opinion, I think Cricky should be called up first before Beede if we ever need a reliever by August or September because even though Beede's performances impresses me even though there's that lack of strikeout concerns from others including me, Cricky is better suited to the bullpen due to his ability to miss bats with his 2 plus pitches and is better suited as our next great closer even though we walks a ton and often makes himself be placed in stressful situations due to his high pitch totals and his ability to allow only a few runs speaks volumes of his bullpen potential in terms of stranding runs and escaping high-leverage situations IMO.

    There are a lot of failed starters who are now the best relievers in the game (Wade Davis, Dellin Betances, and Andrew Miller to name a few) and I think Crick has a lot of potential on our bullpen for the future due to our bullpen guys getting older by the minute and the changing of the guard is happening right now. I saw Wade Davis as a starter and as a reliever and his velocity on his FB improved by 3-4 MPH and his overall command vastly improved as a reliever and that could happen to Crick. We might see him throw 96-99 MPH in one or more inning and pair that with his plus slider. Maybe he's just not that fit as a starter and I know most people think he still needs more time to develop some pitchability but I am on the pessimistic side in terms of Crick. Him, Strickland, Okert, and others could form another formidable bullpen for us in the next 5 years or so and pair that with MadBum and hopefully Beede anchoring our rotation of the future."

    Any comments or arguments about my point is welcome. Maybe Crick can find a niche as a multi-inning Chapman-esque guy for us in the near future.


  2. As for Crick, in the first two innings it just looked like he wasn't getting the calls. As I was watching, I was listening to our radio guy, John Laser. During the top of the 2nd, Lase made the comment that Steve Kline (pitching coach) was "really chirping" at the home plate ump. Shortly after that, Kline made a mound visit and was clearly giving the ump some limp on his way out. On his way back to the dug out, Kline and the ump just stared each other down. At the top of the 3rd, Crick was clearly out of sorts. It's always easy to spot when Crick is frustrated because he does a little spin move after the pitch. He was clearly frustrated last night.

    1. That is a similar sequence to what I witnessed 2 years ago in San Jose. It started with Crick barely missing the strike zone, not getting close calls from the umps then getting frustrated that trying to overthrow everything or else just throwing it down the middle and getting hit.

      I think he mostly throws a 4 seamer and slider and then that 91 MPH changeup. I wonder if they have tried or have thought about trying the Beede approach of having him throw exclusively 2-seamers and cutters and pitch to contact with them?

  3. So, not only did Crick have a lot walks, but going through the play-by-play at MiLB it seems that he hit at least one batter and had a throwing error on a pick-off attempt that allowed a run to score. He also got two coaching visits to the mound. Once in the first inning and once in the third.

    On the other side, the New Hampshire pitchers walked a total of one batter. So make of that what you will, but with a play-by-play/box score like that, I'm not thinking things were terribly unfair to Crick.

    Add in he's walked 32 batters in 38.1 innings... I just think it was him.

    1. You have a lot of either/or's that may not be mutually exclusive in there, Moses. It's well known that umps give pitchers different treatment based on a perception of their ability to command the strike zone. Maybe there is something about Cricky's stuff that makes him harder for the ump to see? Nutz4RVA's description above is almost identical to what I witnessed in the Cal League a couple of years ago which was not extreme wildness until he got frustrated.

    2. That's just a lot of excuses Doc. Major league umps will not like his pissy attitude any more than the minor league umps do. If you're getting the tough zone treatment, only way to break out of it is to pitch better and make the batters hit your stuff. Getting visibly frustrated on the mound only shows your immaturity, and pro umps don't put up with that kind of bs.

      That said, the kid is young, and everyone ages differently. I think with Kyle's arm, they can afford to just give him time until he grows up and gets the mental aspect of his game together.

    3. Did I say something that would make you think I would disagree with any of that? No excuses for Cricky. I'm just trying to figure out where the problem is and how fixable it might be.

  4. I could be wrong, but the control issues with Crick seem to strike a cord with me, and makes me think of Kurt Ainsworth.
    I know Ainsworth career was cut seriously short by injuries, but I can still see similarities.
    I would like t see Crick up in September to work with Gardy and Raggs.

    Richard in Winnipeg

    June 7, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    1. I don't recall Ainsworth having severe control issues, but that was a long time ago now.

    2. The pitcher Crick makes me think of is John D'acquisto whose control issues held him back from a more successful MLB career. He's still young enough (22 yrs old) that the Giants can be patient with him to work out learning the mental aspects of pitching. My guess is he may have issues repeating his pitching mechanics being a power pitcher. That said you can't have enough high ceiling SP arms in the org, so I hope the Giants draft more of them tomorrow.


  5. You may have already mentioned this, but Ricky Oropesa was the Eastern League MVY for the month of May.

    Also, the Giants need to send Kyle Crick to see a hypnotist or psychiatrist to straighten out his head. Normal baseball coaching doesn't seem to help him with his control.

    1. Maybe if there is a companion book to The Mental Side of Hitting called The Mental Side of Pitching, Cricky should read it. I might help him avoid getting frustrated out there.