Wednesday, June 24, 2020

Scouting the Draft: Comping Nick Swiney


Usually when we try to find a comparison player for a college draft pick, we scour the stat lines for similar college perfomances.  I decided to take a different tack with Giants Compensation Pick #67 overall, LHP Nick Swiney.  I decided to take what we know about his stuff and try to find MLB pitchers with a similar repertoire.  Here's what we know about Swiney's stuff:  He throws what appears to be a 4-seam fastball 91-93 MPH to both sides of the plate and likes to throw it up in the zone.  He also has a plus curveball and plus changeup which can both be out-pitches for him.  As near as I can tell, he does not throw any other pitches, not a slider, not a cutter, not a splitter(unless the changeup is a split change).  Now, in the Sabes/Righetti regime, the first thing the Giants pitching coaches would do with Swiney is teach him a cutter to give him a 4'th pitch and voila!  The FZ regime does not seem to be quite as enamored by the cutter, or even slider for that matter.  They seem to be harkening back to the old-school Dodgers under Ron Perranoski who refused to teach their pitching prospects the slider or sinker, preferring the classic 4-seam/Curve/Change combo so I am going to assume the Giants development guys will just concentrate on polishing up Swiney's current repertoire which seems to have an excellent chance of playing at the MLB level.

I then went to Fangraphs and looked up all every significant LHP I could find on every MLB roster(there actually aren't than many) and scrolled down their player page to the sections listing pitch types and percentages.  I was looking for for LHP's with similar repertoires.  To my surprise, I did not find that many.  Almost every LHP in the game either has 4 pitches which include a slider or cutter or they go FB/Slider/Change or FB/Curve/Slider, or they are 2-pitch guys like Drew Pomeranz.  I only came up with 4 names who have the classic 3 pitches and throw each of their secondary pitches at least 15% of the time:

Gio Gonzalez
The late Tyler Skaggs
Early Cole Hamels
Jesus Luzardo.

Luzardo's FB averages about 96 MPH so that's probably not a great comp for Swiney.  I believe Hamels threw a lot harder when he was younger too.  That leaves Gio and the late Tyler Skaggs as comps I was able to find.  Skaggs seemed to be coming into his own before his tragic death, so the performance part is a favorable comp.  Gio has been your classic #4 SP practically his whole career, but sure has been durable.  If Swiney has half of Gio's career, he would be a very successful Comp round pick. I seem to recall the reason why Perranoski hated the slider is he believed it was in injury inducer.  I would point out that current evidence suggests the #1 cause of arm injuries is velocity over 93 MPH, which could also explain some of the Giants recent draft decisions.  Of course, Swiney might be just like most other drafted pitchers and add a slider or cutter to his repertoire.  Then the comps are wide open, but a lefty with solid fastball command and two plus secondary pitches is a heckuva place to start.

7 comments:

  1. not the same repertoire, but if you squint, he looks a little like Lowry.

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    1. Agreed on Lowry. I seem to recall that Lowry's big secondary pitch in college was a curveball but by the time he got to the majors he rarely threw it. Changeup was big secondary pitch and he complemented the fastball with a cutter.

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  2. Swiney is but a few months younger than Seth Corry (to whom you comped Harrison perhaps because they both came out of HS?).
    Is Corry a comp for Swiney also?
    Interesting, Corry and Swiney were both the 3rd choice of the Giants in their draft year, but one was out of college and the other high school. Swiney was a much higher pick numerically but, seemingly, at nearly the same age now, Corry is ahead of Swiney − how much?
    Would you comp them?

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    1. I would say there are more similarities than differences between Corry, Swiney and Harrison.

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  3. Looking at 2022 and beyond, the Giants seem to have a lot of potential #3-#5 starters, but no Aces past Cueto in his option year.
    Are the top 3 Giants Logan Webb, Sean Hjelle, & Seth Corry?
    Are Beede and Suarez (or Rodriguez) options in and/or beyond 2022?
    2020-2021 Free Agent starters are not a strong class - might as well re-sign the Shark if he doesn't want too much.
    But the next year, for 2022: Noah Syndergaard, Clayton Kershaw, Max Scherzer, Justin Verlander, Zack Greinke, Chris Archer, Mike Foltynewicz - some of whom will be a bit long in the tooth.
    But there is Thor! will the Giants offer him?
    And the Giants have an option on Cueto. That might fill in the Top of the rotation!

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    1. Depending on how Beede recovers from TJ surgery, he could be an ace. Beyond that, I'm not sure FZ believes he needs an ace.

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