Wednesday, March 13, 2024

Spring Training Game Wrap 3/13/2024: Reds 19 Giants 11

It was a rough day for pitchers in Scottsdale Stadium as the hitters padded their stat lines in a losing effort by the Giants.  Key Lines:

Jung Hoo Lee CF- 1 for 1, BB.  BA= .348.  Lee came out early due to leg tightness.  Bob Melvin said it was purely precautionary.  Let's hope so because so far Lee is exactly what the Giants thought they were getting when they signed him as a free agent. 

Luis Matos PH/CF/LF- 2 for 3, 2 2B, HBP.   BA= .290.  Matos bat cooled off a bit from his hot start but picked up in his last two games.  8 of his 9 hits have gone for extra bases.

Wilmer Flores 1B- 2 for 3, HR(1).  BA= .409.  Best Giants hitter the last two seasons.

David Villar 1B- 1 for 3, HR(2).  BA= .276.  I still say Villar is going to have an Adam Duvall type of career for someone.  Probably not the Giants.

Thairo Estrada 2B- 1 for 3, HR(1).  BA= .250.  First HR of the spring for Thairo.

Mason Black RHP- 3.1 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 0 BB, 3 K.  ERA= 6.97.  A bit of a stumble for Black but turns out this was one of the better lines by any pitcher on the day.

Juan Sanchez LHP- 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K.  ERA= 1.50.  Is Sanchez the frontrunner for second LHRP?

The Giants are off tomorrow then face the A's in Friday with Jordan Hicks RHP toeing the rubber against Paul Blackburn RHP and don't forget the Giants vs A's Spring Breakout game Friday evening.

12 comments:

  1. Adam Duvall signs with the ...
    Atlanta Braves! Again.
    This will be the 11th season -- 6th with Atlanta -- for the former San Francisco draftee 'way back in 2010.
    In 922 games, he has accumulated a payroll of $24M in 10 seasons, and totaled 11.9 bWAR, 12.9 fWAR, or about $2M per WAR point. Sounds like a value.
    He was picked 348th in the 11th round, 4 picks ahead of Joc Pederson.
    Duvall was the best of the Giants picks that year, and of all of the Giants picks from 2010 through 2018, he was 2nd only to Logan Webb (not including Brian Reynolds).

    And, the Padres signed Dylan Cease, giving up their #5, #7, and #8 on MLB Pipeline's ratings. Those 3 slots for the Giants would be Walker Martin, Hayden Birdsong, and Mason Black, which assumes Giants and Padres farm systems are roughly comparable. Keith Law has SD @ #17, SF @#23. Doc has that Giant 3-some as #4, #7, & #11.
    Padres get 2024 & 2025 of Cease, who is a Free Agent in 2026.
    This seems to imply that San Diego views itself as a playoff team in 2024 with Cease, being a WC along with Philadelphia and Arizona, beating out the Giants among others.
    This might suggest that the Giants should sign Snell or at least Montgomery and maybe Lorenzen or Clevinger.
    That's not going to happen without busting the $237M "limit"!

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    1. Duvall put together an interesting career and made a nice stash for himself in the process. I would point out that 12.9 fWAR in 10 years averages out to 1.3 fWAR/season which goes to show you can carve out a nice career for yourself while functioning at somewhere below average and above replacement level.

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    2. I would pull the trigger on trading Martin or Whisenhunt, Birdsong and Black for Dylan Cease. What we don't know is if the ChiSox think one of those packages would equal or top what they got from the Padres.

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    3. You know if you squint your eyes just enough you can see that Mike Clevenger has pretty similar stats to Cease. He may not be in contention for the Cy Young, but year over year not that different, and available without the loss of prospects.

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    4. Lorenzen is not bad either

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    5. Yes, Clevenger! Not that he's amazing, but SUPER good value for the risk. Why he's not in play is beyond me.

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  2. With the injury to Blue Jays catcher Danny Jansen yesterday when he was hit on the wrist, it might make one think why does that happen?
    Is it true that more players are being hurt by being hit-by-pitch than had lost playing time in the past?
    It does seem that there are more pitchers that throw in the high 90's than the old days. Bob Gibson owned the inside of the plate by threatening batters who dug in but he didn't throw over 95 mph, as measured by the primitive devices then.
    Google says "The average career of a Major League Baseball player is 5.6 years, according to a new study. The study also revealed that one in five position players will have only a single-year career, and that at every point of a player's career, the player's chance of ending his career is at least 11 percent."
    Injuries are part of the game but should getting close enough to the plate to handle outside pitches be "dangerous"?
    Baseball changed the rules after Posey got run over deliberately — should there be some consequence for those pitchers who hit multiple batters, considering that a player has only tenths of a second to get out of the way?

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  3. FWIW, Tyler Beede is having a somewhat productive Spring for Cleveland @ 31 yo (b'day in May), 10 IP, 10 Ks, 4 walks

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    1. I wish the best for Tyler Beede.

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    2. Same! I wish Beede had put it together for the Giants. But if does it now for Cleveland, good for him!

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  4. Gee, an honest assessment of the Giants offseason, including what they didn't do, from an FZ critic!
    https://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2024/3/15/24101318/giants-prospects-farhan-zaidi-dylan-cease-tyler-glasnow-corbin-burnes

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  5. If the Giants sign Snell OR 2 of the rest of the Top 4, Montgomery/Lorenzen/Clevinger, it will be 2nd best offseason in all of MLB.
    OTOH, while the Dodgers win in star/stud power, did they improve enough to beat Atlanta? And why have Arizona and Philadelphia (and Atlanta) made it to the WS since the dog's won the 2021 rump season...

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