Saturday, May 11, 2019

Thoughts on Farhan Zaidi's Rosterbations

Rosterbation is a double entendre term that arose on the baseball blogosphere out of frantic efforts by bloggers and their readers to fit offseason moves into mythical salary caps.  It may have started with folks who were dreaming about the Giants signing Vlad Guerrero to a free agent contract as the Bonds era came to a close.  I think it probably started on McCovey Chronicles and may well have been coined by Grant Brisbee.

Rosterbation has taken on a whole new meaning since Farhan Zaidi became the Giants GM, or whatever his title is.  Players have been shipped in and out so quickly I can't even remember all of them.  On top of that, we are now adding the IL shuttle the Dodgers are known for the last few years. There were more moves today and to tell you the truth, I am not sure who all is on the roster and who it not right now.

The day started off with the Giants claiming OF Aaron Altherr off Waivers from the Phillies.  More on him later, but to make room on the 40 man roster, the Giants DFA'd RHP Andrew Moore.  Andrew Moore?  I guess I vaguely remember him being acquired a couple of weeks ago or 3.  But wait!  Altherr is also out of options which means the Giants have to put him on the 25 man active roster, so a move needs to be made there too, but who would it be?  Brandon Belt is apparently not hurt bad enough to go on the IL, which is amazing in itself the way Zaidi uses the IL.  Farhan and Bochy just got through making a commitment to an extended look for Mac Williamson, not that those pronouncements have meant much in the recent past.  Tyler Austin is a game removed from hitting two 3-run dingers, so it's hard to imagine him being released.

The Giants have some off days coming up and Dereck Rodriguez needs to work on his command.  That's it!  But wait!  Apparently the D-Rod move was to make room for Eric Kratz.  Which means Aramis Garcia will likely be the one to go to make room for Altherr.

Back to Aaron Altherr.  I've had me a hankering for Aaron Altherr for awhile now.  Here is the line Altherr put up in 2017:  .272/.340/.516 with 19 HR and 5 SB in 412 PA.  He's 6'5", 215 lbs and very athletic.  A 5-tool player if you will.  He has had some bad luck with injuries.  He had another one early last season and never regained traction stumbling to a sub- .200 BA.  The Phillies moved on this offseason so the writing was on the wall in Philly.  I thought he might make a nice buy-low target in the offseason, but now the Giants have him for free.  In my opinion, all Aaron Altherr needs for another breakout is an injury-free run of steady PA's, but he needs time.

Here's the problem.  Mac Williamson also has breakout potential, but needs time.  Steven Duggar has breakout potential, but needs time.  Tyler Austin has breakout potential, but needs time.  Baseball is a game of repetition, muscle memory, adjustment, more repetition.  That is not just a subjective observation or opinion.  It is a mathematical fact that baseball performance for anything less than approximately half a season is nothing more than a random number generator.

So enough with the Zaidi version of Rosterbation.  It's time to settle down, decide what horse you want to ride and give it some room to run.  Maybe one of Mac, Altherr and Austin will break out and be the next Max Muncy/Chris Taylor/Justin Turner.  Maybe they all will.  Maybe none of them will.  We'll never know unless they have some time to prove it.  After all, Max Muncy was in the Dodgers organization for a full year before he had his breakout.

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A word to the wise:  Don't waste your precious time writing comments demagoguing past Giants trades.  I am telling you now, I have zero patience for these comments and will not publish them.  Every organization and every GM has trades in their past they would like back.  It's an inherently risky business.  There were numerous trades made during the Sabean/Evans era.  The vast majority worked in the Giants favor.  Harping on a couple of prospects we'd all like to have back is not constructive and ignores the greater body of work from the previous regime.

The two that seem to be currently sticking in people's throats are Luis Castillo and Bryan Reynolds.  Yes, Luis Castillo is an ace right now.  Yes, I would like him in the Giants rotation right now.  But TINSTAAPP.  On average, if you trade a couple of pitching prospects from the lower minors for veteran help, you will come out ahead at least 90% of the time.  Remember that once upon a time, Francisco Liriano and Zack Wheeler looked like aces too.  As with all hard throwing young pitchers, Luis Castillo is always one pitch away from a visit to Dr Andrews.  As for Bryan Reynolds, he's an OK prospect, but the Giants have about 15 OF's in their organization just like him or better.  Personally, I'll take our chances with Steven Duggar, Mac Williamson, Aaron Altherr and Mike Yastrzemski.

9 comments:

  1. My biggest concern is that if Farhan whiffs a few years in a row on our first round picks it could set us back 3-4 more years. None of the players he is adding are good enough to build around and he hasn’t shown an ability to trade for any high level prospects yet (maybe when he trades MadBum?) so he essentially is putting all his chips in the draft and international market.

    That strategy by itself puts us 3-4 years away from competing if successful. If unsuccessful get ready for a long dry spell. The Rosterbation shows me he has no real player evaluation skills because anyone can make desperate moves like these and hope something works! If you dont have enough faith in a move you made a week or two ago and are now dumping that player for a shiny new toy you are no better than any of us who play fantasy baseball!

    There isnt enough talent on this team to compete right now and these moves have done little to change that. Pillar had a few good games and got us a few wins and a few others have helped here and there but not enough to compete. So what’s the point? This team is stuck in purgatory and its time to let it die already and start fresh. Dump everyone for whatever you can get at this point to try and get a top 2-3 pick in the draft and evaluate the talent we already have on this roster over a full year.

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  2. Enjoyed your post, agreed time for them to settle down and go with what they have. It's fair to say that Zaidis rosterbation hasn't worked in terms of finding players who can stick long term, but they haven't invested a lot of money or sacificed top prospects to acquire these players either, so I don't question talent evaluation too much.. I consider Altheir like a lottery ticket. Zaidis real test will be how the Madbum situation is resolved in July. Will he trade Madbum for top prospects, or does he hold on to Madbum? Read in a mlbtraderumor article that Madbum is a favorite of owner Charles Johnson so maybe he gets a new contract with the Giants?

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  3. The priority going forward should be stockpiling prospects by trading away anyone who can get a return. Put together a package of MadBum + Posey + Smith to Atlanta for 3-4 of their top prospects. Dump Belt, Watson, Longo, Holland, Pomeranz, and Pillar for whatever you can get. Those deals combined should realistically net 3-4 top prospects, 2-3 middle range prospects, and maybe 3-6 lottery tickets. Run out this lineup for the rest of the year and the fans will still show up and we might get a glimpse of something to look forward to.

    Dugger CF
    Panik/Solano 2B
    Panda 3B
    Austin/Shaw 1B
    Vogt/Garcia C
    Mac LF
    Crawford SS
    Altherr/Slater RF

    Starters:
    Shark
    DRod
    Suarez
    Anderson
    Beede/Blach

    Pen:
    Moronta CL
    Dyson
    Bergen
    Black
    Gott
    Vincent

    There are a few holes left to fill but I cant see this lineup being any less watchable than the current team and it would give the farm system a much needed boost. Worst thing that could happen would be this lineup loses 100 games which would guarentee a top 2 pick. I can live with that.

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  4. It's hard to predict how crafty pitchers will adapt as they age and Bum for pure "stuff" has been rode hard and put away wet and certainly (WAR-wise) has past his peak.
    Because of post-season pedigree he may be coveted by someone in July, and maybe like Gaylord Perry he'll be every bit as good or better than he was as a Giant.
    He's still our Ace, and will be until he signs somewhere else, and he may salvage this series as the 1-run-win-scenario is evening out: the Giants must score for success, and they aren't consistent at that.

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  5. Sounds like Altherr, Austin, Duggar and Williamson should be our OF, so trade Pillar. And trading Bumgarner is a no-brainer - if the Giants ownership loves him that much they can make him an offer he won't refuse as a free agent, AFTER someone gives up a very solid prospect or two for him. I think they should sign Keuchel as well, go to 2020 with a re-signed Bumgarner, Keuchel, Samardjiza, Rodriguez and Anderson/Suarez/prospect we got for Bumgarner. This young OF could grow into itself in 2019 and pay dividends in 2020 - Belt is finally traded, Posey moves to 1B, Bart starts at C with Vogt backing up. SF needs to trade for or draft the next SS. Between now and July 31 move Holland, Pomeranz, Longoria, Melancon for salary dumps and make room for the youngsters to play, and move Lopez, Dyson and Smith for decent prospects. Again, SF can always re-sign Smith as a FA but they have Moronta so probably don't need to.

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  6. Couldn't agree more that all of this crying over spilled milk is getting a little old. Holland in the Sporting Green complained that his recent IR visit was "fake" and that he blamed the front office (not Bochy). Oh boy, old ways die hard ... Interesting, though, most of the grousing has been about hitting. Now, the rotation is the one looking for a fix!

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  7. We still have Cueto!!

    Richard in Winnipeg

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    1. Cueto will be our Ace over the next 3 years until someone else develops and I’m ok with that. Resigning MadBum after trading him would be a great move too and they can afford it. I’m worried that we don’t have a future “Ace” in our minor leagues and hoping that by trading MadBum and a few others they can acquire a few more high end pitchers so they focus on drafting bats

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  8. Do not understand the Altherr signing. One decent year in hitter's park and many mediocre minor league years.
    I do not rate him over what we already have. I'm losing confidence in Z.

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