It's official! Tony Vitello is the new Giants manager. No details available yet but I doubt Vitello would leave his rock-solid job as head baseball coach at University of Tennessee for anything less than a rock-solid multi-year contract that pays significantly more then the $3 M/yr he's been getting at Tennessee. After several weeks of interviewing exclusively ex-catchers, Buster makes his decision and hires an ex.......well, he's not an ex anything! He never played or coached professional baseball even at the minor league level! So what's Vitello's cred?
He played college ball at University of Missouri with Max Scherzer and earned degrees in management both as an undergraduate and in a masters program. He used those skills to become an impact college baseball coach with a reputation for not only being a big motivator but a stickler for "fundamental" baseball, whatever that means. It seems Scherzer thinks very highly of him and thinks he will make a fine MLB manager. Does that mean we might see Mad Max in a Giants uniform next season in the Justin Verlander role? Hey! Maybe Buster can sign both Verlander and Scherzer!
Reports say Vitello has been on Buster Posey's radar for at least several months, maybe even for years. It seems they have had many deep conversations about the game of baseball and how it should be played and their ideas are in synch. While I have no idea if their ideas are what will transform the Giants but I find it encouraging that both men appear to be very thoughtful about the game and are both continually searching for improvement.
I like that Vitello has formal education in management. While managing people in any capacity is very much an art and in inborn talent, it's also very much a science. The days of hiring an ex-player just because they "know the game" and/or are great guys in the clubhouse should be a relic of the past. Yes, you need someone who knows the game and has the right personality but you also need someone who understands the science of leading and motivating people, as baseball players are people with people personalities and people problems just like all the rest of us.
What I do think is an open question is how veteran MLB players will react to leadership from someone who never had any formal contact with the professional side of the game. Mike Krukow, who is way older than old-school has already sounded that alarm. It would not be a surprise if other old-schoolers like Will Clark and J. T. Snow chimed in with their 2-cents worth. If they do, and if Buster is committed to seeing this through, then he needs to find a way to lower those guys profile in the organization. The last thing this team needs is another 4-5 years of influential ex-players carping about lack of respect for the game and about playing the game the "right way."
As a fan, I am excited by this bold decision and am rooting hard for it to work out. As for any predictions about that, as always, I remain cautiously optimistic.
I can't say either way on VITELLO but I do like his background as far as running the team between the lines...The clubhouse and beyond? I don't know...But BUSTER has got to feel pretty confident...I hear the concern that KRUKOW has raised and there is merit to it.. So maybe instead of minmizing any further feeding of the alarm fire...maybe POSEY (and VITELLO) talk to old school these guys for their input and maybe even somebody is hired to VITELLO's staff that is more old school and lived the baseball life.
ReplyDeleteThe only negative for me is that this might mean that the ex-VOL rabid puppy dog Drew Gilbert stays around!!
We shall see on everything.. Go Blue Jays!!!
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We're cautiously optimistic, too. Still, besides reception by veteran players, two other concerns: Is this just Posey pushing more buttons ("thinking outside the box"), rather than formulating a real plan? Also, will the Giants now settle on a rotation of Webb, Ray, Roupp, Tidwell (ex-Tenn. player) and Scherzer (good friend of Vitello) ... and favor playing Gilbert as a mainstay in the outfield?
ReplyDeleteI am a fan of the hire and actually prefer his hire to Nick Hundley. I know this is coming at a high cost to the Giants ownership -- and while I strongly strongly believe ownership has the funds to spend more money. I do think coaching a big market inefficiency, and I hope they don't only spend money on the Manager, but also shell out for the best coaches money can buy.
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Was driving home from the City this afternoon listening to Tim Kawakami interview Dave Fleming discussing and grappling with the very points you raise. The most hopeful comment was a comparison with Jim Harbaugh, who had no problem communicating and motivating players from Division II through NFL veterans. Fleming stressed that Posey doesn't want to be buddy-buddy with the opposing teams and doesn't mind offending them with intensity and Fleming believes Vitello shares this approach, and this is just how Harbaugh acted when he got the Stanford job and continued into the NFL. And there's no question that Harbaugh's teams at every level are detail-oriented, largely mistake-free, intense teams. I could see that playing out favorably.
ReplyDeleteOr of course Vitello could be Urban Meyer, Chip Kelly, etc .....
If nothing else, this should be entertaining.
Great post Doc! As a Hawaii college baseball fan, I feel for the Tennessee fans who loved Vitelo, as a Giants fan I'm excited about this bold out of the box move by Buster. I'm sure the Giants have done their homework and have every reason to believe this will be a great hire.My guess is former padres manager Jayce Tingler will have a high position on the coaching staff. They played together at Missouri. What stood out to me in the press release is Vitello's commitment to developing young players. Giants could use some help in this area at the major league level. While Landon Roupp made great progress, Birdsong took a step back. They have several young position players who can't seem to make the jump from AAA to majors. Why did it take Lee so long to make the adjustment to hit to all fields instead of pulling the ball all the time.Vitelo must have had a lot of success developing players into 1st round draft picks at Tennessee. Very impressive and not easy to do. Look forward to the press conference. Go Giants!
ReplyDeleteThere's no reason why either Hundley or Casali can't possibly be pitching coach. I like this choice.
ReplyDeleteI give Buster a ton of credit for taking a chance on someone he believes in. One question we should be asking ourselves though is does this signal a rebuild? New coaches typically get 1-2 years to right the ship so does this effectively mean we may not compete until 2028? I’m more than ok if that is the case I just wonder if they would be honest with the fans about it. It would give Vitello the next 3 drafts to build the future of this team with players he has intimate knowledge of. Maybe the most overlooked aspect of this signing is going to be his influence in the draft room over the next few years with basically a scouts eye on some of the best draft prospects in baseball.
ReplyDeleteEverything we've seen from Buster so far tells us he expects to see immediate improvement while at the same time building for the long game. I will add that I hope the assumption that ex-Tennessee players will get preferential treatment from Vitello is a false assumption.
DeleteNgl the first thing I thought when reading that Vitello one of his biggest attributes is being a great motivator combined with being pretty young/inexperienced is "sounds a little like Kapler, uh oh", but I will give Buster the benefit of the doubt still at this point and just hope my fear is wrong, lol.
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