Sunday, December 15, 2019

Hot Stove Update: A Giants Legend Moves On

Well, that's it folks.  Madison Bumgarner's time with the Giants has run out after one of the better runs in Giants history.  Today we learned that he will be playing for division rival D'Backs for at least the next 5 years.  That's the times we are living in.  The days of players spending an entire career with the team that signed them and brought them up through the minors is over.  We'll have to be satisfied with getting the best of Bumgarner's career as well as Buster's, Timmy's and Cainer's.  Hey!  We got all of Cainer's career and could get all of Buster's too!

The Giants have had some great pitchers in the organization starting with Christy Mathewson then Carl Hubbell.   I grew up in the Marichal/Perry era.  Bumgarner is special out of all those because not only was he an ace level pitcher, without his postseason heroics, it is likely the Giants would not have won any World Series during his career let alone 3.  For all his greatness, Juan Marichal never won a World Series(not his fault).

So yeah, this is a sad day.  What make it harder to swallow is the contract he ultimately signed seems to be well within Giants budgetary constraints and within the performance levels he can reasonably expected to produce over the next 5 seasons.  It would not put the Giants in danger of having to pay a payroll tax either in 2020 or in subsequent years.  In short, re-signing Bummy to this contract(5 year/$85 M) would not halt or delay any "rebuild" in any way shape or form.  OK, maybe the extra draft pick turns into a Hall of Famer, but it's highly unlikely.

On the other hand, I am not going to lead the "fire Farhan" charge over this.  Bummy has a ton of mileage on his arm and large longterm contracts haven't exactly worked out well for the Giants over the past decade, so I understand the argument for letting him go.  I've made it myself!  I actually really like the deals Farhan made at the Winter Meetings.  In fact, I was just thinking of writing a post about how the Giants should be included in those lists of Winners of the Winter Meetings!  Hopefully Farhan has a few more of those up his sleeve and will re-allocate money that might have been used to sign Bummy for other good things.

One more thing:  I wish Bummy the best, but not his team.  I think he may find that he misses pitching half of his games in Oracle Park.

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The Rangers traded Delino DeShields and RHP Emmanuel Clase to the Indians for RHP Corey Kluber.  Kluber missed most of last season with injuries, although the main one was a freak fracture of his arm on a comeback liner so should not have a lasting impact.  Of some concern, is the loss of velocity he showed prior to the injury.  This seems like a light return for a pitcher of Kluber's stature. This shows how tough it is to trade a player without proof of current health.  If he does bounce back, the Rangers have built themselves a formidable starting rotation to open their new ballpark with.

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CORRECTION:  I corrected a mistake in the text above in which I originally said Juan Marichal never pitched in a postseason game.  A reader pointed out he pitched in the NLCS in 1971 against the Pirates.  I could be mistaken, but I think he also may have pitched in the 1962 World Series against the Yankees.

7 comments:

  1. Good post Doc. It's a sad day with Madbum leaving, but thankful for the great memories that he provided. Wish him well, nice that he's going to an area that his family likes. It seems like Zaidi was brought in to make good baseball decisions without the emotional attachment of the glory years. It's interesting that it seems like the Giants and other teams like the Twins and Dodgers didn't offer that 5th year. We'll see if this signing works out for the dbacks. Yup free agency does suck for the fans. I remember writing to the Giants front office when Will Clark signed with the Rangers.

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  2. It will be tough see Bumgarner is another team's colors, for sure. My second favorite Giant of all-time, right behind Willie Mac. Five years and $85 to $100 million was lower than I would have thought back in July, when I figured the chances of MadBum at about 5%.

    Curious decision given the choice made at the deadline to hold on to MadBum. If it's about analytics, the numbers indicated strongly that the Giants playoff chances were really quite poor, even during their great summer run of victories. So, why be driven by analytics now (presumably indicting a significant decline by MadBum over the course of five years) after ignoring the analytics at the trade deadline? Was that Farhan reading the clubhouse and seeing the value of keeping the group together and hoping? Or, was the decision based in part on the belief that at pick in the range of 85 this June was as valuable as what could have been gotten in a trade?

    BIG pressure on the scouting Dept going into the draft, with four picks in the first 85+/-.

    Finally, we were blessed to have Madison Bumgarner, and his snot rockets for 10 years. He is a throwback, who could entertain us on the mound and at the plate. His run in the 2014 playoffs was historic not just for Giants fans, but for all of baseball for all time. Farewell to a Giant of a Giant.

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    1. As to why they kept Madbum and Smith at the deadline, it was reported that Zaidi promised Bochy that they would field a competitive team in 2019. They probably weren't blown away with trade offers either.

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  3. Juan Marichal did pitch one game in the post-season. In 1971 he lost 2 to 1 to the Pirates.

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  4. Marichal actually pitched in two post season series. 62 world series and 71 lcs. Started one game in each.

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  5. I would be more supportive of this rebuild if I knew there were a player or two to root for this year and next. At this point it looks like a cross between the Miami Marlins and the cast of Major League. Scouting department has 3-4 years before anyone can tell if they've done a good job which means nobody is going to be held accountable until at least 2023. Does anyone really want to wait 4-5 years before this team might be good?

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    1. Personally, I'd much rather spend 3-4 years bad and then become a contender then spend the foreseeable future in mediocrity. Besides, we're not a traditional small-market team rebuilding. We have money to take on bad contracts for prospects to accelerate our rebuild, and I have faith in Zaidi doing so.

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