Thursday, November 16, 2023

2023 Draft Review: Giants Draft Review

 The Giants signed all 21 of their draft picks which included two overslot deals, Walker Martin in round 2 and Josh Bostick in round 8.  The rest were underslot to pay for the two overslots.  Their draft included 3 HS prospects, 2 JC and the rest from 4-year colleges.  They had an extra pick due to a declined QO by Carlos Rodon.  Let's take a look at the early returns:

Round 1:  Bryce Eldridge OF/RHP, HS.  DOB:  10/20/2004.  B-L, T-R.  6'7", 235 lbs.  ACL:  .294/.393/.647, 5 HR, 14.8 BB%, 26.2 K%.  A:  .293/.406/.379, HR, SB, 15.9 BB%, 26.1 K%.  Excellent start to pro career as a hitter.  Drafted as 2-way player so look for him to pitch some next season too.

Round 2:  Walker Martin SS, HS.  DOB:  2/20/2024.  B-L, T-R.  6'2", 188 lbs.  DNP.  Not sure why he did not play post-signing.  Was he working on things?  Injury?  Giants were rumored to be in on him, possibly for first round, but they were targeting him for Round 2.  Turns out they knew what they were doing.  Can't wait to see what he does on the field.

Round 2C:  Joe Whitman LHP, College.  DOB:  9/17/2001.  6'5", 200 lbs.  ACL:  0-0, 0.00, 4 IP, 9.00 K/9, 0.00 BB/9.  A:  1-0, 3.18, 5.2 IP, 14.29 K/9, 3.18 BB/9.  Whitman was a late riser and ranked as # 1 college LHP in the draft.  Giants grabbed him with the extra pick they got for losing Carlos Rodon to free agency.  3-pitch mix should allow him to rise fast.

Round 3:  Cole Foster SS, College.  DOB:  DOB:  10/8/2001. B-S, T-R.  6'1", 193 lbs.  ACL:  .333/.355/.700, 3 HR, 3.2 BB%, 32.3 K%, 31 PA.  A:  .230/.306/.390, 4 HR, 2 SB, 7.2 K%, 31.5 BB%, 111 PA.  K rates at lower levels worrisome but finished season strong with a 5-game hit streak going 8 for 21.

Round 4:  Maui Ahuna SS, College.  DOB:  DOB:  3/11/2002.  B-L, T-R.  6'1", 170 lbs. DNP.  Remarkable parallels to Brandon Crawford's college career.  Plus defensive SS, great sophomore campaign, scuffled at the plate junior season.  Some analysts, including Giants scouting director Michael Holmes, rate Ahuna as the top defensive SS in the draft class.  He has some power from the left side of the plate but K rate soared to over 30%.  Excited to see him take the field in 2024.

Round 5:  Quinn McDaniel 2B, College.  DOB:  9/27/2002.  B-R, T-R.  5'11", 180 lbs.   ACL:  .250/.471/.479, 3 HR, 6 SB, 28/6 BB%, 22.9 K%, 70 PA.  .267/.364/.511, 3 HR, 2 SB, 55 PA.  Intriguing power/speed combo but again we see the high walk and K rates.

Round 6:  Luke Shliger C, College.  DOB:  9/25/2001.  B-L, T-R.  5'9", 180 lbs.  A:  .298/.403/.351, 11.9 BB%, 14.9 K%, 67 PA.  Pretty good ratios at a low level for a college draftee.  We should see him in the Eugene Ems boxscores this spring.

Round 7:  Scott Bandura OF, College.  DOB:  8/2/2001.  B-L, T-R.  6'4", 190 lbs.  ACL:  .400/.524/.667, HR, 23.8 BB%, 28/6 K%, 21 PA.  .241/.364/.405, 2 HR, 3 SB, 15.2 BB%, 26.3 K%, 99 PA.  Love the size and projectability.  Again we see the high K rates.

Round 8:  Josh Bostick RHP, JC.  DOB:  10/20/2001.  6'4", 205 lbs.  ACL:  0-0, 0.00, 3 IP, 18.00 K/9, 3.00 BB/9, 0-0, 10.80, 1.2 IP, 5.40 K/9, 5.40 BB/9.  Extremely small sample sizes.  Great size for pitcher.

Round 9:  Charlie Szykowny SS, College.  DOB:  6/30/2000.  B-L, T-R.  6'4", 225 lbs.  ACL:  .250/.391/.462, 2 HR, SB, 14.1 BB%, 21.9 K%, 64 PA.  A:  .239/.340/.304, 9.4 K%, 15.1 BB%, 53 PA.  College SS but size suggests he'll end up at a corner.  I do like seeing heights of 6'4" or more on several drafted position players.

Round 10:  Ryan Vanderhei RHP, College.  DOB:  6/1/2001.  6'6", 185 lbs.  DNP.  Don't know much about him.  Lover the height.

Round 11:  Jack Payton C, College.  DOB:  8/7/2001.  B-R, T-R.  5'11", 200 lbs.  ACL:  .400/.483/.480, 6.9 BB%, 24.1 K%, 29 PA.  A:  .184/.244/.263, HR, 4.9 BB%, 19.5 K%, 41 PA.  Very small sample sizes.  Bat first college catcher.  2024 will be the real test. 

Round 12:  Timmy Manning LHP, College.  DOB:  9/10/2001.  6'2", 195 lbs.  ACL:  1-0, 2.25, 4 IP, 11.25 K/9, 0.00 BB/9.  Extreme SSS.  Too small to discern any indicators.

Round 13:  Jose Ortiz OF, HS.  DOB:  2/13/2005.  B-R, T-R.  5'11", 165 lbs.  .167/.333/.167, 6.5 BB%, 32.3 K%, 31 PA.  Another very small sample.  Giants have drafted quite a few HS players out of Puerto Rico over the years without much success.

Round 14:  Cale Lansville RHP, JC.  DOB:  1/6/2003.  6'1", 205 lbs.  ACL:  1-0, 2.25, 4 IP, 6.75 K/9, 2.25 BB/9, 4 IP.  A:  0-0, 5.14, 7 IP, 14.14 K/9, 3.86 BB/9.  More small samples.

Round 15:  Dylan Carmouche LHP, College.  DOB:  8/22/2001.  6'6", 225 lbs.  DNP.  No info.

Round 16:  Justin Wishkoski 3B, College.  DOB:  1/19/2001.  B-R, T-R, 6'3", 195 lbs.  ACL:  .375/.500/.563, HR, SB, 15.0 BB%, 1.7 K%, 60 PA.  A:  .209/.346/.302, HR, 13.5 BB%, 9.6 K%, 52 PA.  Interesting reversal of K/BB, but with conservative placements.

Round 17:  Drew Cavanaugh C, College.  DOB:  1/27/2002.  B-L, T-R.  6'0", 220 lbs.  ACL:  .300/.475, 333, 17.5 BB%, 25.0 K%, 40 PA.  A:  .250/.333/.250, 12.5 BB%, 29.2 K%, 24 PA. 

Round 18:  Michael Rodriguez LHP, College.  DOB:  1/8/2000.  6'5", 250 lbs.  ACL:  1-1, 7.71, 2.1 IP, 7.71 K/9, 11.57 BB/9.  Sample too small for any indicators.  Any LHP that big is interesting.

Round 19:  Tommy Kane LHP, College.  DOB:  10/31/2000.  6'1", 180 lbs.  2-1, 5.93, 13.2 IP, 11.20 K/9, 2.63 BB/9, 2 Saves.  A:  0-1, 10.29, 7 IP, 12.86 K/9, 3.86 BB/9.  Ratios look better than ERA's.  SSS.

Round 20:  Nadir Lewis OF, College.  DOB:  11/22/2000.  B-L, T-L.  6'1", 195 lbs.  ACL:  .220/.291/.360, HR, 2 SB, 7.3 BB%, 34.5 K%, 55 PA.  Teammate of Scott Bandura at Princeton.  More of a speed guy and more of a project.

22 comments:

  1. when you draft 8 lefty bats & a switch hitter, why also draft 5 LHPs? Other teams aren't going to have anyone for them to pitch to

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    1. FZ likes his lefty hitters and pitchers. Didn't the A's have like 6 or 7 lefty relievers in their bullpen when FZ worked with them?

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  2. As usual, that is terrific stuff. You have keen insight.

    Perhaps you can explain the extreme hype in Giant circles – all over the web – for Chapman over Davis.
    Yes, Chapman is better, especially on defense, but Fangraph's 2024 projections are just 1 WAR better for Chapman than Davis, and he is projected to get close to $20M/year for 5 years. Even the good season last year is in decline.
    Davis is projected under $7M and there is no ongoing obligation.
    With a half dozen shortstops in the Giants top prospects, Luciano would be blocked at 3B by an expensive Chapman in decline for years.
    Spend the $100,000,000 somewhere that isn't buying 1 WAR point per year.

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    1. +1 I am also in the Chapman makes no sense camp.

      - Fan

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    2. I am afraid you are asking the wrong person because I don't think signing Matt Chapman is a wise use of resources. I am not sure why they are even acting interested other than a connection from when FZ and Chapman were both with the A's.

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    3. How do you feel about trading for Eugenio Suarez instead of signing Matt Chapman?

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    4. I am not seeing 3B or corner IF as a priority. My priorities for the Giants this offseason are 1. Power hitting OF or DH who bats lefty(cough, cough). 2. Frontline SP. 3. Another frontline SP. 4. True CF.

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  3. I heard on KNBR today Papa say that Melvin loves Chapman as a person and player and had a very close coaching relationship with him at the A’s …

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    1. That's great and all but is Chapman what the Giants need to upgrade the team? Yes, he is a better 3B than J. D. Davis but by how much? What are they doing spending time and potentially money on Chapman before other, bigger, priorities are filled? I suppose Davis has some trade value and could be packaged to bring back a CF or SP.

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  4. Sign Cody Bellinger and Blake Snell, make it happen!

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    1. Would Zaidi go out that limb?
      Quite a roll of the dice considering Bellinger's 3 years prior to 2023 (which might not have been as good as it looks - peripherals), and most of Snell's 8 years with just 2 really good years (both CYAs).
      The combined cost is more per year than The Gifted One.

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    2. Have to say I am leary of both Bellinger and Snell although the upside is compelling for both. If they can't sign Ohtani, my under-the-radar/value plan would be Lee from the KBO for CF and Brandon Belt for LH DH with 2 frontline SP's. I would consider that a successful offseason although I am sure many fans would find it frustrating.

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    3. Ha!
      Most would call for FZ's head!
      Including some of the few who give him a little nod now.
      They really really need a power increase – where will it come from?
      2021, one of BB9's best years with 29 HRs, was far superior Away than Home: .290/.401/.624/1.025 v .258/.355/.571/.925

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    4. The power will have to come via trade. Maybe if they offer FA Ohtani a Brink's truck he will come and take the hit to his stat line at SF. I like the Lee CF and 2 frontline pitchers idea with platoons in the OF corners suggestion.

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  5. Do you think FZ will jump on Woodruff with a 2-year deal? Kinda his thing...

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    1. Definitely part of his MO. So far the main benefit has been in flipping them for prospects after rehabilitation from the injury but yeah, I am sure he is looking at it.

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    2. Good for both sides: SF has another SP for 2025, Woodruff has 2025 to look good in a pitchers' park before Free Agency

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  6. It’s time to empty the farm and spend some money! Trade from the top 10 prospects in the farm for Alonso and Soto and sign both long term. Sign Yamamoto for whatever it takes.

    Wade CF
    Estrada 2B
    Soto RF
    Alonso 1B
    Conforto LF
    Haniger DH
    Davis 3B
    Fitzgerald SS

    Webb
    Yamamoto
    Cobb
    Disco
    Some guy FZ finds in a dumpster

    Sure we would have to rebuild the farm but I’m not in love with any of our prospects to be honest. That lineup and rotation could be deadly if FZ just finds a few more pitchers from the scrap heap and maybe even resign Craw.

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    1. The problem with this scenario is it is highly unlikely either Soto or Alonso sign contract extensions. They will be 1 year rentals and hit free agency. Yes, the Giants could sign them as free agents but then you are paying full market value at best with a relatively small probability of signing them at all.

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  7. Farhan should consider Luis Severino as this years starting pitcher rehabilitation project. Should be very cheap.

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  8. Will the market wait for The Annointed One to pick his fav?
    Given SF is a long shot for Him, will they hang around like last year and let the market disappear while they chase(d) the Impossible Dream?
    Actually last year should have been better: who would have thought that 4 FA's they ended up with after 2 swings and misses would all turn turtle?
    Maybe the 3 that stayed will vindicate 2023 -- it could happen.
    Just don't let the good fits after #1 get away when there is no chance The One they want signs with them and not with the Hated Ones.
    #2 is a pitcher SF has a chance of signing and the CFer down the line would plug a gap even if he isn't a power hitter.
    Trade for the middle of the lineup basher? You need it..

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  9. Happy Thanksgiving. I remember analysts like Jim Callis raving about the Giants 2023 draft looks like they got good value throughout the draft starting with their early picks. 1-Bryce Eldridge MLB.com ranked #23 draft prospect, Giants took him #16.. reportedly showed power potential in A ball, should he give up pitching,? 2-Walker Martin ranked #30 draft prospect, Giants took him #52. Reportidly a good athlete with a good stroke.that can stick at SS. Can't wait to see how he does. 3-joe Whitman ranked #37, taken by the Giants #69. One of the top left hand pitchers in the draft.4-Maui Ahuna ranked #48 taken by Giants #117. Says a lot that Michael Holmes ranked him the top defensive shortstop in the draft. it's unfortunate that Kai Correa is no longer with the Giants I believe. They knew each other and he could have helped Maui Ahuna settle in as a professional ballplayer . This looks like a draft that has a lot of potential to help the Giants for years to come, but you never know until these players gain experience in pro ball !

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