tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post924713995269977509..comments2024-03-28T08:29:08.040-07:00Comments on When the Giants Come to Town...: News and Notes: Spring FolliesDrBGiantsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05574563470247927739noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-77135408981416208502013-02-11T16:20:54.653-08:002013-02-11T16:20:54.653-08:00Lefty Malo called it "the schitzophrenia of t...Lefty Malo called it "the schitzophrenia of the lunatic fringe"... I really didn't the depth of that feeling until I looked back on previous posts at some popular blogs, especially the beat reporters. Best 4 baseball years of my lifetime I says! Sure there have been some follies, but overall it's been straight up golden. Eventually the run will end and they will be vindicated. One abrupt change for me once the prove outs by ownership (Cain, Bumgarner and Gustavo Cabrera) is that we have to look at our draft position and realize the farm as trading block for fill ins is the first priority. I think they will enforce their no-trade guys still, but it's going to be hard to get the best prospects, and it takes too long for them to develop. So the Gints will turn to their reclamation and trading as the primary building block. Shankbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803824507120403397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-49779937432868283642013-02-10T22:08:51.985-08:002013-02-10T22:08:51.985-08:00That's the funny thing, for the Giants FO, fro...That's the funny thing, for the Giants FO, from the perspective of the Naysayers, it's damn if you do, damn if you don't. And they don't seem to realize that.<br /><br />If the Giants rely on their young prospects, Sabean is excoriated by the Naysayers for not signing a good vet instead. If they sign an old vet, they are raked over the coals by the Naysayers for not trusting their young prospects. In their eyes, the Giants and Sabean cannot do anything right, yet somehow, the Giants, in spite of the flaws that are so evident to the Naysayers, have won two championships in three seasons. <br /><br />Luck, again, is the key byword secret password to get into their club. They don't realize how much they diminish the accomplishments of all of the MLB by claiming the Giants won two championships in three years by luck. They don't realize that by sticking to their intransigent position they are stating that they enjoy watching sporting events that don't really matter because, well, luck is the main reason for world championships.<br /><br />Again, it is not luck. Luck does not develop a great rotation and bullpen that keeps the other team from scoring very many runs. Luck and randomness is the team scoring to win with that pitching, but that twists the true nature of offense, while there is luck involved, just look at the distribution of any team, there is a curve involved, luck is involved in creating the exact shape of that curve, but the offense itself is a product of the players 1) talent level and 2) their production in the face of the pressure of the moment. Anybody who has had to play in front of any decent sized crowd will know what I mean by this.<br /><br />So, yeah, luck that Ross had his homer streak, luck that Conrad muffed the balls, luck is involved everywhere, that was the whole point of DIPS and the distribution of hits. What was not luck was our pitchers and fielding keeping the score low enough that our offense could beat the other teams. It was constructed to do that, to enable a low scoring team to win games that other teams would lose. <br /><br />And again, two championships in three seasons, plus competitive in the last four seasons, how do you define that as luck without undermining the value of having a competitive team, of players great performances? They have spit upon the performances of those two great teams with their insistence that luck was the reason they won. They really bring home the whole "you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" analogy vibrant with life. obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-43706753747834054002013-02-09T22:34:56.645-08:002013-02-09T22:34:56.645-08:00So, to make a long story short, they want more gua...So, to make a long story short, they want more guaranteed money which they know they won't get now so they aren't demanding it. They just happen to think they can get it by waiting. DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-90258925776758181082013-02-09T21:56:05.360-08:002013-02-09T21:56:05.360-08:00As much as it pains me to do this, as Lozano spamm...As much as it pains me to do this, as Lozano spammed my blog with four bogus comments, but I have to say that Sabes is technically in the wrong here. The sequence as I understand it is that the Giants offered the base plus incentives deal and Wilsons side turned it down. At that point Sabes assumes that means that they want more guaranteed money. Lozano is saying that they have made no demands as to wanting more money and are waiting until Wilson is ready for MLB action to sign. So he is technically correct.<br /><br />However, anybody in Sabeans shoes would assume the same if Lozano does not clarify his position. So I am on Sabeans side on this, he may be technically wrong but what else is he suppose to think if Lozano does not clarify? Dumb agent, you do not want to piss off many teams by trying to make the team look bad, especially if you specialize with high end players, as there arenot that many that can pay those salaries. <br /><br />What they are doing is that they believe that Wilson can come back all the way. They hope to pull off something like the Rocket did, sign for full value, that when prorated is still more than the guaranteed base the Giants offered. So let's say they think he can get $10M if healthy, if he can come back by mid season, then he gets $5M. If he signs the low base deal at $3M, say, then most probably the performance bonuses kicks in only if he pitches more than half a season. In this context, then I can see why they chose this route. <br /><br />Of course, they did not have to be so harsh about and act so publicly mad. Plus, most pitchers do not come back from their second TJS as successfully, so they are risking that base, which has not been released yet, so all we can do is speculate. They could have simply went the high route, thank the Giants for the offer but say that they think Wilson will get back sooner and can get more in that case. Reminds me of Renteria sitch.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-43094375651417152942013-02-09T13:11:46.664-08:002013-02-09T13:11:46.664-08:00Yup, saw that. Good for Doug Clark!Yup, saw that. Good for Doug Clark!DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-50176408564228665732013-02-09T11:59:38.609-08:002013-02-09T11:59:38.609-08:00Off Topic here, but did you see who got the carrib...Off Topic here, but did you see who got the carribean championship clinching homerun in extra innings for mexico against the dominican republic? Former giants draft pick Doug Clark. I thought he had a chance with the giants when he was drafted. Good to see he's still playing some baseball. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-82308876369258581562013-02-09T11:57:27.040-08:002013-02-09T11:57:27.040-08:00Oh, and good luck with the logical argument for Po...Oh, and good luck with the logical argument for Posey/Belt and Sanchez. I'm sure the whole "giants don't understand obp" will be out in force early and often. I bet Monell gets an extended look, if he has made progress with his defense he might get the call if hector gets hurt.<br /><br />If Belt really is going to get reps in LF, there is another reason for ignoring the FA market this year. While it looks like Blanco might be a better part time player, he has shown flashes of more upside. This LF situation looks to me like the Giants trusting their farm and drafting prowess, as they did with Belt, Crawford and Sanchez last year. Naysayers will be ready to rock the criticism the moment any of those lads falter, but they get to start the season getting a ring and will all reach 2k professional PAs this year, they might just bring their game to a new level. Gonna be fun to watch.Shankbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803824507120403397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-9502212237702228482013-02-09T11:40:48.874-08:002013-02-09T11:40:48.874-08:00Sabean vs Lazano huh? Going with Sabean all the w...Sabean vs Lazano huh? Going with Sabean all the way. Bobby Evans does all the contract work anyways. Agents will try all sorts of trickery to paint public opinion. I have come to really appreciate Sabean's frankness as well as the no-BS attitude. The only leaked stories have been ownership hijinx, Sabean keeps things quiet.<br /><br />Surprised that Javier Herrera doesn't have an non-roster invite. They are giving Peggs, Brown and Roger K a long look methinks.Shankbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803824507120403397noreply@blogger.com