tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post5631332292522408622..comments2024-03-28T09:55:54.830-07:00Comments on When the Giants Come to Town...: Thoughts on Adam LaRoche and Kids in the ClubhouseDrBGiantsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05574563470247927739noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-2837951190887565412016-03-19T09:39:12.479-07:002016-03-19T09:39:12.479-07:00Kid should be in school, period. I know LaRoche is...Kid should be in school, period. I know LaRoche is on record saying he doesn't really believe in school and feels his kid will gain more learning from the club house. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I see nothing wrong with his kid being at some of the afternoon/night home games, but to argue MLB club house > school is a crazy. There is no way anyone will convince me that a bunch of guys who's average level of education is probably high school, at best "some" college, is the best group of educators one could have. And that is not even counting the ones who don't speak English.mistglnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-86852158229569109752016-03-19T08:07:30.981-07:002016-03-19T08:07:30.981-07:00Agree that it sure seems like there must have been...Agree that it sure seems like there must have been some concerns coming from some of the other players that we don't know about. I find it very odd that this went down in the middle of spring training and not during the offseason.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-60945416910044025562016-03-19T08:05:36.156-07:002016-03-19T08:05:36.156-07:00From the way the clubhouse reacted, it seems to me...From the way the clubhouse reacted, it seems to me this is just the tip of the iceberg. It feels like there must be deeper issues between management and the players and this issue is just the flash point.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-79395769143303227912016-03-19T08:03:41.992-07:002016-03-19T08:03:41.992-07:00I feel like there is way more to this story than w...I feel like there is way more to this story than what we've seen and heard in the press. Not sure what it is, but there is something that just seems to be missing from the story.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-45982186882013218052016-03-19T07:43:56.071-07:002016-03-19T07:43:56.071-07:00The comments from Moses and Bryce here are great p...The comments from Moses and Bryce here are great points on each side of the debate. I think I side more with Moses though, as this is all a bit eye-rolling for me as well. I did see a Tweet from a national writer (I can't remember who though) that made it sound like a few players had voiced concerns over the son being in the clubhouse so often. Honestly, if the White Sox cornerstone players decide not to stay with the club longterm, it will be a result of the franchise's record on the field, not its policy with players' kids. <br /><br />I always look back to the Giants, as I feel they are a model franchise in the league right now. Yes, Baer has created a great family environment in San Francisco (look at the Crawford's, for example). However, I do not believe the organization allows players' kids to just roam freely or come and go as they please around the facilities. That, in my opinion, takes away the #2 focus of any sports franchise... winning (#1 is obviously making money).<br /><br />Cove ChatterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-4289914729643087562016-03-19T07:12:20.014-07:002016-03-19T07:12:20.014-07:00By most accounts, it sounds like Drake LaRoche (wh...By most accounts, it sounds like Drake LaRoche (whose name is now well-known because of this) was not an issue. This will end up costing the White Sox a shot at extending Chris Sale and maybe Adam Eaton. The kid was in the clubhouse, as much as, 120 games last year. That's probably excessive, but it's not really the issue now. <br /><br />The issue is coming down to how Ken Williams handled it. A two hour "contentious" meeting that ends in a well respected veteran retiring isn't the best course. According to Eaton, the players rep, laroche actually had a clause in his contract. If that's true, he'll be getting paid still. This may have just been the straw that pushed the players over the edge in their disdain for Williams. Brycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06538789257255927719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-357767936265078362016-03-19T06:28:07.670-07:002016-03-19T06:28:07.670-07:00I think LaRoche is financially set-for-life, was h...I think LaRoche is financially set-for-life, was having back problems, was going to be on the bench behind Abreu (again) and, ultimately, needed a convenient excuse to walk-away on his terms. <br /><br />And I certainly don't see what the White Sox did as anti-kid. The White Sox actually encourage kids to be a the club house. That's their current policy. And it hasn't changed. Plus, it wasn't like he banned the kid or threw a hissy fit. What he wanted was a bit more focus on baseball instead of family in the locker room so what he asked for is the kid to not be there 100% of the time. <br /><br />I don't think the White Sox did anything wrong here. In my company there is an absolute 'no kids at work, ever' policy. What we do is dangerous. It was the same at my Grandfather's companies (logging, mining, road construction). You just don't bring your kids into those kinds of places. And that White Sox could, and do, allow it is something that no fathers (or mothers) can do in so many workplace environments, and he got bent out of shape because he couldn't do it every day... It's really eye-rolling for me.<br /><br />So when I see the tantrum-retirement because he was asked to dial-it-back (not stop it, just dial-it-back) I don't see 'noble father fighting the Corporate Suit' as has been played out in the media. I see a convenient excuse to go out without the 'quitter' label.MosesZDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12702323080585738748noreply@blogger.com