tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post5564027329096315976..comments2024-03-29T02:43:41.299-07:00Comments on When the Giants Come to Town...: Thoughts on Rookie HazingDrBGiantsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05574563470247927739noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-69092021206958083802015-02-23T07:55:48.129-08:002015-02-23T07:55:48.129-08:00Ripken never was a saint. I've never really un...Ripken never was a saint. I've never really understood the extreme infatuation fans have had with him. Solid player, with HOF credentials. I certainly don't want to diminish his accomplishments. But nothing extra special with cheese. He always kind of struck me as Captain Vanilla.<br /><br />The trouble with Hazing is it can be a lot of things. If performed by sadistic types, the effect is wildly negative, very destructive. The intent is to harm and establish dominance. But if it is done in the spirit of team-building, I believe it can be a very positive, bonding experience. Having been on the receiving end of both types, there is a definite difference. <br /><br />Things like demanding rookie relievers to carry supplies out to the bullpen in a pink My Little Pony backpack is very different from giving someone conflicting orders (putting him into a no win situation) and then physically punishing him for whichever one he violated.KJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-4397029919314924062015-02-22T10:36:59.130-08:002015-02-22T10:36:59.130-08:00Excellent post. Certainly does diminish my impres...Excellent post. Certainly does diminish my impression of the sainted Ripkin. It will be interesting to see if anyone asks Ripkin about it. More interesting to see how he views his conduct today.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-89656309363786501072015-02-22T09:05:17.835-08:002015-02-22T09:05:17.835-08:00I played HS football & baseball. Hazing was j...I played HS football & baseball. Hazing was just a way to bully younger and smaller people on the team. It never made anyone a better player. It certainly didn't 'bring out the best' in the bullies or the victims.<br /><br />It did cause some people to quit sports. Or to have a negative view of team sports they've carried forward in their lives.MosesZDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-55442179802067634472015-02-22T08:51:09.472-08:002015-02-22T08:51:09.472-08:00I agree, it's primitive, tribal, immature and ...I agree, it's primitive, tribal, immature and childish - physical attacks, or gloating over some player's lack of nutritional discipline, or belittling another (major or minor league) player's on-field struggles, by fans or players. <br /><br />A player may be over weight, out of shape, making a lot of money, costing my team a chance to greatness - and I shake my head at it - but life is great than that. And that's our contribution to the game...how we fans respond.BuyLowSellLowernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-18833738694131041332015-02-22T06:39:49.437-08:002015-02-22T06:39:49.437-08:00Do any of you remember Gregg Zaun's personal w...Do any of you remember Gregg Zaun's personal webpage? It was a trip of black, neon, and had a soundtrack/club music that played, I think.kennvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17546434201339463323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-18376701870087040412015-02-22T06:35:39.986-08:002015-02-22T06:35:39.986-08:00Lost a longer response, so I'll just say: Grea...Lost a longer response, so I'll just say: Great post Dr B. <br /><br />And an underrated part of rookie hazing is the financial costs (new suits, dinners for teammates) put on fringe players.kennvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17546434201339463323noreply@blogger.com