tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post529782643653615125..comments2024-03-29T02:29:06.393-07:00Comments on When the Giants Come to Town...: Down on the Farm: 2011 Giants Draft ReviewDrBGiantsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05574563470247927739noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-18246521955625067372015-11-25T01:48:39.940-08:002015-11-25T01:48:39.940-08:00I hear what you are saying but if the draft only l...I hear what you are saying but if the draft only lasted 30 rounds, the Giants could still sign a Jake Smith as an undrafted FA.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-291619868840918192015-11-24T23:24:53.358-08:002015-11-24T23:24:53.358-08:00But imagine if the Cards had NOT selected Wacha- t...But imagine if the Cards had NOT selected Wacha- there would be no Ishi home run to win the National League pennant and punch our ticket to the series. As much as I would have loved Wacha over Stratton, that is a moment Giants' fans will never forget. It's funny how these things work out in baseball. Gotta love it. <br /><br />Nice write-up Doc! AJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-59396072765397747272015-11-24T16:17:22.270-08:002015-11-24T16:17:22.270-08:00Thanks for posting this review. Nice to see this d...Thanks for posting this review. Nice to see this draft laid out like this. celginhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09702247321956434817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-35661600384306049432015-11-24T12:10:47.398-08:002015-11-24T12:10:47.398-08:00I agree, Doc, on the importance of treating each r...I agree, Doc, on the importance of treating each round of the draft as important. Longshot success stories like Marvin Benard (50th round) and hopefully Jake Smith (Rd. 48) are examples of why I do not want to see the draft cut to 30 rounds or even 40 rounds. Sure, some teams probably start throwing in the towel half way through the draft and some make novelty/publicity picks late in the draft, but the Giants don't operate that way. It's like when a class is given three hours for the final exam.. Some students blast through it and turn in their tests early and start partying. Other students grind it out, double or triple check their answers, and use the full time allowed. Why not? It is given to you so take it. Sure, it's not the best analogy for the draft, but if you are allowed 50 picks, go all out on each and every round. As OGC mentioned in an earlier post, selecting a player who may not sign still creates a relationship with that player and his family. And if the player does sign, there are always late round success stories which in the end is better publicity for the team than purposely selecting someone as a publicity stunt or a favor. The late pick may exceed projections and expectations, or just being selected late may light a fire under some players who want to prove they are good enough to have been selected earlier. Just being drafted fulfills many a young players' dream and could lead to an eventual career in the game as a coach or executive for the team, if not as a player. Everyone loves the underdog, and the Giants seem to have more than their share of those types of players, which is why they are such an enjoyable team to root for.baseballjunkienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-66615484773427434862015-11-24T11:11:39.971-08:002015-11-24T11:11:39.971-08:00My basic rule of thumb of 'successful' is ...My basic rule of thumb of 'successful' is if you generate one high-quality, difference making fielder and/or starting pitcher out of a draft you're doing well. I mean, honestly, most playoff clubs only have a handful of really good, difference-making players. After that, I think you're doing okay if you're getting one or two decent players per draft. Not necessarily top-flight/top-five starters, but guys that aren't going to embarrass you -- #4/5 pitchers, solid middle relievers, bench depth, relief catchers, solid fielders/hitters.<br /><br />So, from that perspective, in 2011, the Giants got Panik, someone who is one of the best 2B in all of MLB and was a key in the Giants 2014 WS championship. That one player alone makes this draft a winner. Plus they got some depth and quality out of Tomlinson, Susac and Osich, all of whom have shown themselves. to one extent or another, to be MLB worthy even if they're not All-Stars or even merit-starters yet. <br /><br />And there is still at least some reasonable hope for a number of the prospects sill in the minors -- Law, Biagini, Blackburn, Hall, Black and possibly even Kyle 'Wild Thing' Crick who, when he's on, is nearly unhittable.MosesZDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12702323080585738748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-79591664432737633682015-11-24T10:01:42.194-08:002015-11-24T10:01:42.194-08:00Wacha is a stretch because he got picked before th...Wacha is a stretch because he got picked before the Giants slot but Marcus Stroman was picked 2 slots after the Giants and that would have been an excellent pick in hindsight.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15112223964736652123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-8106748489345141162015-11-24T09:02:18.652-08:002015-11-24T09:02:18.652-08:00The Giants really haven't gotten much credit f...The Giants really haven't gotten much credit for their recent draft classes, but other than 2010 being a flop class, I think they've done an exceptional job. Look at that group above. Talent littered all over the class. Even though it's very early, I have to say I've got similar excitement for the 2015 class. I think they plucked a lot of future MLB'ers in there.<br /><br />Cove ChatterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-30777077955166803992015-11-24T07:46:32.886-08:002015-11-24T07:46:32.886-08:00It is interesting to see how things have played ou...It is interesting to see how things have played out. I was only lukewarm on Panik when the Giants drafted him. Now, he's one of my favorite Giants. I thought we got several mid-round steals who were going to make an impact like Garret Buechele, Kentrell Hill, and Christian Davis. Shows what I know. jjwsfgiantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-7773800035524405812015-11-24T07:13:07.819-08:002015-11-24T07:13:07.819-08:00Gotta be patient there, Anon. We'll get to 20...Gotta be patient there, Anon. We'll get to 2012 in due time.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-55320840693215214712015-11-24T07:07:43.862-08:002015-11-24T07:07:43.862-08:00And yet, I can make an argument that in the long r...And yet, I can make an argument that in the long run, the 2012 draft will out perform 2011. Imagine if the Giants were able to pick Wacha like they wanted instead of Stratton (just 1 pick). 2013 is not looking too shabby either. This scouting/development team is really underrated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-67381334069976303872015-11-24T03:03:26.879-08:002015-11-24T03:03:26.879-08:00At one point I thought Shawn Payne was the steal a...At one point I thought Shawn Payne was the steal at #35. He had a year to remember in 2012 at Augusta batting .309 while stealing 53 bases out of 56 attempts. He quickly came back to reality and was out of the organization by the end of 2014. I just remember thinking he was the next big thing and then nothing.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15112223964736652123noreply@blogger.com