tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post401450702370680558..comments2024-03-28T09:55:54.830-07:00Comments on When the Giants Come to Town...: Scouting the 2018 Draft: Rumors, Machinations and StrategyDrBGiantsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05574563470247927739noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-60140569390536413682018-06-04T09:14:26.437-07:002018-06-04T09:14:26.437-07:00Picking Cole Winn at #2, the Giants are (sorta) co...Picking Cole Winn at #2, the Giants are (sorta) comp'ing him to Madison Bumgarner.<br />If they are right, it will be the coup of the century. <br />OTOH, it may be a thin draft compared to 2007, when Giants had 6 picks in the first round (in addition to Bum the Giants got Alderson who was traded for Freddy Sanchez and Culberson who was traded for Marco Scutaro). 2007 1st round included Donaldson, Price, Heyward, Frazier, Wieters, Porcello, Moustakas; second round Stanton, Freeman, J Zimmermann, Cozart; also Lucroy, Kluber, Arrieta came from 2007.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-52159112905089776852018-06-03T19:21:37.307-07:002018-06-03T19:21:37.307-07:00DrB, thank you for mentioning my research, and tha...DrB, thank you for mentioning my research, and thank you for putting all of the speculation into context for us. You likely aren't too far away from the truth here, and I truly believe that. <br /><br />The frustrating part for me is wondering why the Giants would just skip over so many other talented players to "settle" for an underslot deal with Winn, when Winn isn't even the consensus top prep arm in the class. Not even the consensus top prep RIGHT-HANDER in the class. But your explanation actually helps me understand this a little better. Holding the number 2 pick, it makes no sense to have anymore than 2 players on your 1st round board, right? If #1 is drafted, you just take #2. And if Winn is truly the #1 pitcher in their eyes (Tidrow's eyes), then it all makes perfect sense.<br /><br />Honestly, I wasn't hoping to prove anything or make any statements by compiling that Top 5 & Top 10 data. I was just curious, and went down a rabbit hole. But the results really were an eye-opener. At the end of the day, the spot a player is drafted is simply just a number on a list, and great talent can come from anywhere... but there are only 2 pitchers who were selected in the top 5 out of high school who are pitching in the majors today. Bundy & Taillon. That blows my mind. And despite all of the data that supports taking a college hitter that high, I would probably still be ok with them drafting Matthew Liberatore!<br /><br />You and I are still very much on the same page here DrB, as I would love to see the organization go heavy on pitching. And if they take Bart at the top, it wouldn't bother me a bit to see a run of 9 consecutive pitchers for them. <br /><br />Thanks again for the plug, and here's hoping we strike gold tomorrow! Happy draft eve.<br /><br />Cove Chatterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15721758691271411017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-5402943805698347022018-06-03T18:19:09.233-07:002018-06-03T18:19:09.233-07:00Sure, the Giants or Tigers could take Mize, make h...Sure, the Giants or Tigers could take Mize, make him an offer then dare him to turn it down. He would be foolish to walk away from a $multimillion, return to school and lose the leverage of returning to school. Question is whether he's really enough of a slam-dunk prospect to make you want to go through that process. Have a history of playing fair with their draftees, but staying away from ones who are likely to cause trouble like that.<br /><br />As for medicals on Mize, I think it is mostly speculation. He does have a history of an arm injury, but seems fine now. DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-34457768381216724762018-06-03T18:15:17.762-07:002018-06-03T18:15:17.762-07:00Quite a few Alec Bohm fans out there. I'd be ...Quite a few Alec Bohm fans out there. I'd be OK with the Giants drafting him if they believe in his bat, but I would prefer Bart or a pitcher or HS OF Jarred Kelenic. I don't trust offensive numbers that come out of Wichita St and he's a corner player so will have to hit a ton.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-48414691175782476762018-06-03T17:01:25.193-07:002018-06-03T17:01:25.193-07:00Once the pick is made, say Detroit takes Bart, and...Once the pick is made, say Detroit takes Bart, and the Giants take the consensus guy rather than the scouting report -- Casey Mize, the negation begins -- Giants offer, then if it's not accepted, there is a counter offer, and it goes on?<br />Ultimately, the Giants would sign him and NOT let him go -- is that correct?<br />Giants would NOT end up with nothing?<br />Whet is the physical doubt with Mize? I thought he was fluid with more than a FB, high level competition? why NOT take him, specifically? <br />Is he a future Bumgarner? Who was the wiseman there?<br />For sure, if you have another Bumgarner, you take him! Even out of HS, a stud pitcher is onle a few years away.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-91217282793827815582018-06-03T16:55:41.722-07:002018-06-03T16:55:41.722-07:00I read a fan-consensus mock draft that had us draf...I read a fan-consensus mock draft that had us drafting Alec Bohm, 3rd base. I had no idea who he was, because, let's face it, I don't have time to follow the baseball draft which is much, much harder to do than the NFL draft. <br /><br />So, what I read is that he is a second-team All American who hit .339 with 57 runs, 76 hits, 14 doubles, 1 triple, 16 home runs, 55 RBI, 39 walks and 9 stolen bases in 2018. His game power is, currently, rated 55 (MLB Pipeline) and FanGraphs projets him to 70 power. He also has a much better eye than most power hitters and walked more than he struck out last with 39BB to 28K.<br /><br />He never hit under .303 at the college level. His OPS went from .893 as a Freshman to 1.061 as a Junior.<br /><br />His defense is a bit rough, but he's got the arm for 3rd, and FanGraphs & Perfect Game both agree he has the tools to improve it. But he may end up a first baseman.<br /><br />Here's a link to The Baseball Cube's stat profile: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/profile.asp?ID=202239<br /><br />Many mocks have going 3rd to the Phillies.<br /><br />And, OMG, he's four months older than my youngest daughter... I'm getting old. Better join the AARP.MosesZDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12702323080585738748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-23053411430783144942018-06-03T11:47:13.423-07:002018-06-03T11:47:13.423-07:00Thanks for posting this and help making some sense...Thanks for posting this and help making some sense of all the rumors. Jonathan Mayo is saying that the Tigers have narrowed their 1st pick to 3 choices, all college players: Casey Mize continues to be the front runner, followed by Joey Bart(c), and Brady Singer(p). John Barr said he has several players in mind with their pick pending Detroit's pick. We'll see what happens.<br /><br />LG Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-67966285792022122972018-06-03T10:04:38.503-07:002018-06-03T10:04:38.503-07:00As a draft neophyte, I've been trying to study...As a draft neophyte, I've been trying to study up on all of the possibilities. This year's draft could be a crucial part of the Giants' puzzle in coming years, given how much money they've now got locked up in older players. This blog post put it all together in a way I haven't seen elsewhere. Thanks for your efforts, much appreciated!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com