tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post3475341587246871134..comments2024-03-28T04:45:03.729-07:00Comments on When the Giants Come to Town...: Hot Stove Update: AJ Preller Blows Up the Hot StoveDrBGiantsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05574563470247927739noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-86562117008160907672014-12-22T10:31:42.097-08:002014-12-22T10:31:42.097-08:00Go big or go home eh? So you like either but not t...Go big or go home eh? So you like either but not the middle? This is a barely in the middle team, so I can't see why you are so content. This team barely made the playoffs last year and has done nothing to get better and all signs point to LF being a considerable down grade from last year. Some people say that fact that minor league pitching wasn’t traded means the Giants understand how valuable they are. On the other hand, (and just as likely) is that other teams know those guys aren’t that good so why trade for them? Some people say Pablo wasn’t that good last year so he is easy to replace, on the other hand him being average is one of the reasons they nearly missed the playoffs.<br /><br />I question your belief that they will spend money at the trade deadline if they are close. If they won't go over the CBT now, why would they then? And how much help could they get if they want to stay under the CBT, not enough to stay competitive. Isn't it better to have a good team from the outset than to count on a mediocre team to perform better than expected? Oh wait, that would just be better for the fans, the owners don't care, the season tickets have been sold and they are raking in the $ from October. This is Sabean doing his job well, keeping the purse holders and the hardworking, middleclass, $ spending non-hardcore fans mollified. We are looking at another serious non- defense of the title. Little wonder nobody takes the franchise seriously.<br />22's SweetSwinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02224679009729884861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-77625056656833457522014-12-21T16:27:30.843-08:002014-12-21T16:27:30.843-08:00I could make everybody who posts sign up for a mem...I could make everybody who posts sign up for a membership or something, but I have had problems figuring out how to do that myself on other sites, so would prefer not.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-11062986377391134042014-12-21T16:25:54.096-08:002014-12-21T16:25:54.096-08:00$26.6 M is a whole lot of money for anybody, even ...$26.6 M is a whole lot of money for anybody, even multibillionaire owners!DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-27308615630357398262014-12-21T13:30:12.327-08:002014-12-21T13:30:12.327-08:00DrB, is there a way to just not allow anonymous po...DrB, is there a way to just not allow anonymous posts? Think that might eliminate most of the deleting you have to do.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15112223964736652123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-44063838996944108042014-12-21T13:16:59.307-08:002014-12-21T13:16:59.307-08:00Well to lighten things up a little Doc, the Dodger...Well to lighten things up a little Doc, the Dodgers just got hit for a bill of 26.6 million in luxury tax penalties. The Bums had a 257 mil payroll taxed at 30% and have now paid 38 million over the last 2 years. As Mike Tyson would say, "That is ludacrissss."RBJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-91673908709248205852014-12-21T13:01:10.823-08:002014-12-21T13:01:10.823-08:00Well, there is a difference between trust and blin...Well, there is a difference between trust and blind faith. IMO, Sabes has proven beyond reasonable doubt that he is a very good GM, possibly even a HOF GM! On the other hand, no GM is perfect and no team is going to win the World Series or even necessarily make the playoffs every year.<br /><br />I trust that over a long period of time, Sabes is going to make more good decisions than bad and is going to produce a better team than most GM's in the came circumstance. In the shorter term, there will be times when he might have done things that would have turned out better and will field some teams that aren't quite good enough to make the postseason let alone win it.<br /><br />So far, I would say his moves this offseason have been prudent. Like last year and 2012 and 2010, this team is looking like one that has to have some things go right for it. As we know from 2011 and 2013, things don't always break right.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-18640182848308038902014-12-21T12:36:08.932-08:002014-12-21T12:36:08.932-08:00OK, thanks for the support everybody. A few sub c...OK, thanks for the support everybody. A few sub comments may have automatically been deleted with the original comment. I don't have control of that.<br /><br />Once again, the basic commenting policy is Have a Take, Don't $&%#! Comments that are too far off topic, argumentative without data or reasoning to back them up, as well as those that violate the usual rules will get deleted. I am trying to maintain a community where people can have a rational discussion about baseball. You do not have to agree. I leave comments in almost every post that do not agree with my take, but they are presented either as a simple statement of opinion or have some data or reasoning to back them up. What I do not want is for discussions to degenerate into a "yes it is, no it isn't", "tastes great, less filling" type of argument or for someone to get on a hobby horse and ride it into the ground. If you are beating a dead horse, go beat it somewhere else! <br /><br />Yes, most screen names are made up, including mine, but if you use the same screen name consistently it is a way of building up a recognizable track record of contributory commenting that will buy you some extra consideration in editing comments. <br /><br />I don't know how else to do it and still maintain the environment I am looking for. I don't want to initiate a policy of moderating comments before they appear, because that is much more stifling in my opinion.<br /><br />If I have hit the button a bit too fast on some comments, I apologize, but I am also determined to not let the comments degenerate into shouting matches and off topic conversations that we see on some sites.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-84795111771112539512014-12-21T10:31:26.946-08:002014-12-21T10:31:26.946-08:00Oh? We have lost 4 fWAR through the departure of ...Oh? We have lost 4 fWAR through the departure of Sandoval and Morse. Do you not think we will gain those through McGehee, a full year of Panik, and a healthy Pagan and Belt? Peavy as a starter probably improves on Vogelsong. Susac as backup catcher improves on H. Sanchez. How then are we weaker? If we add a LF worth 1.5 or 2 WAR, we should be stronger than last year's World Champion team, shouldn't we?<br /><br />We have done a minimum so far, but maybe a minimum is all we need to do, recalling that our improved rivals will have to play each other as well as us. If the Padres take a couple more games from us, they will also take a couple from the Dodgers, don't you think?campanarinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-2288172981382416812014-12-21T09:29:02.092-08:002014-12-21T09:29:02.092-08:00It's true, we as fans should have learned to t...It's true, we as fans should have learned to trust Sabes more after the Melky and Scutaro, but then look at Hicks and Uggla, and Frenchy. Maybe Mcghee for example, will show up with Melky flair, and lead the league in hits, but he's no replacement for a power guy that contended for a Gold Glove. <br /><br />Each off season, I find our rivals looking better on paper, so I'm used to that.... this is the first time I actually think we look worse than the year before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-15166300448294738292014-12-21T08:01:09.144-08:002014-12-21T08:01:09.144-08:00I think defense is real because that stat analysis...I think defense is real because that stat analysis bears out a greater correlation to winning with ERA than any offensive category. And ERA is the product of pitching and defense.<br /><br />This is all, btw, based on pre-Steriod era research. MosesZDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-90963489153460797412014-12-21T07:52:05.452-08:002014-12-21T07:52:05.452-08:00I don't know about others, but I didn't se...I don't know about others, but I didn't see Scutaro, Melky, Peavy, etc before management acquired them.<br /><br />Being a fan is a lot easier and so, I will leave the heavy lifting to Sabean, Evans, Bochy and Co.<br /><br />Instead, I try to concentrate on staying eternally hopefully and such macro stuff like 'are injuries too much to overcome this year to trade away a top prospect?'BuyLowSellLowernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-35608524908823276152014-12-21T07:40:17.236-08:002014-12-21T07:40:17.236-08:00One thing I learned from the research on this is p...One thing I learned from the research on this is players are taxed on their signing bonus by the state they live in NOT by the state they play in. With California tax rates being so high a player that lives elsewhere should seek a higher signing bonus to alleviate tax burden in their overall contract. This idea may help when attracting free agents who weigh offers from teams in states other than Cal against what the Giants are offering. It was noted on a few different sites that Lester would have made millions less in SF if he signed the same contract that he did with the Cubs. Everyone points to our park as the reason FA don't want to come to the Giants but the California teams have to overcome crazy tax rates and you can bet the players have been told that they will make millions less on the same deal if they sign with teams in higher tax states. Sorry for rambling but if I am a player, I am moving to Nevada where there is no state income tax and I am asking for the biggest part of my salary in a signing bonus.RBJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-48809930916593668682014-12-21T07:39:46.878-08:002014-12-21T07:39:46.878-08:00Well, like I said, if the Giants are still serious...Well, like I said, if the Giants are still serious about James Shields or an OF that costs anything, then either the Fangraphs info is wrong or the Giants are OK with going over the threshold or the threshold has moved up or some of the published info on the Giants current payroll is wrong because signing Shields at this point would almost certainly blow past the threshold based on what we think we know.<br /><br />This kind of gets into known knowns, known unknowns, unknown unknowns, etc.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-24728103620966429432014-12-21T07:23:40.927-08:002014-12-21T07:23:40.927-08:00The tax is calculated on AAV of each contract with...The tax is calculated on AAV of each contract with the signing bonus added in as part of the calculation. So if the player has a 10 mil signing bonus, 8 mil year one, 12 mil year two, 20 mil year three for a total of 50 mil, it counts as 16.67 mil a year against the threshold. Info comes from fangraphs. RBJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-56800627865316173262014-12-21T07:19:59.340-08:002014-12-21T07:19:59.340-08:00Well, I am sure Sabes and Co will do their due dil...Well, I am sure Sabes and Co will do their due diligence on Craig, Byrd and others.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-17650472321792537752014-12-21T07:03:08.549-08:002014-12-21T07:03:08.549-08:00From what I have read Allen Craig is finished. Fo...From what I have read Allen Craig is finished. Foot injury, bat speed-put a fork in him.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245129165124772844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-66005019430434786972014-12-21T06:40:50.391-08:002014-12-21T06:40:50.391-08:00So far, Byrd has been a better fielder than Craig ...So far, Byrd has been a better fielder than Craig and I would rather have the 1 year commitment than the risk on the last 2 years of Craig's contract, but I would take either one.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-91871040952901224552014-12-21T05:57:58.136-08:002014-12-21T05:57:58.136-08:00Postseason defense is extremely important. The Pa...Postseason defense is extremely important. The Padres had a excellent defensive OF - that couldn't hit. You have to have guys who can hit. Its a balance. The Giants without Pence, who can do it all pretty well, would be dead in the water. You have to have enough offense to grind through the season. And yes, I slept a tad in the post season. What happened?Shankbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803824507120403397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-32506515478120775822014-12-20T23:19:33.727-08:002014-12-20T23:19:33.727-08:00I would much rather take Allen Craig over Byrd. Cr...I would much rather take Allen Craig over Byrd. Craig is much younger (30 v 37) and if he can put the bad year of 2014 behind him and play like the previous 3 then that gives the Giants cost certainty for LF for 4 more years and a very team friendly (5.5M, 9M, 11M and 13M) contract. I think last year he must have had nagging injuries because he is a much better player than the stats show.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15112223964736652123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-16294986549744142142014-12-20T23:11:42.077-08:002014-12-20T23:11:42.077-08:00You are right. Something is wrong with the calcula...You are right. Something is wrong with the calculations because I highly doubt they will even get close to cap. If they are possibly thinking about adding Shields on top of Romo, McGehee and Peavy then maybe the signing bonuses are calculated much differently. Who knows? We will just wait and see.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15112223964736652123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-82488602821082774912014-12-20T21:35:55.022-08:002014-12-20T21:35:55.022-08:00…er Note…..…er Note…..DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-33276984096403756342014-12-20T21:35:30.285-08:002014-12-20T21:35:30.285-08:00Yeah, don't want Ryan Howard or his contract.Yeah, don't want Ryan Howard or his contract.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-66031702598055606862014-12-20T21:34:55.355-08:002014-12-20T21:34:55.355-08:00And while you are at it, you can ask Billy Beane t...And while you are at it, you can ask Billy Beane too.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-72384869627244696892014-12-20T21:07:46.670-08:002014-12-20T21:07:46.670-08:00Byrd's strikeout percentage has been going up ...Byrd's strikeout percentage has been going up sharply over the last four years, from about 16% to 20 to 24 to 29, so as to make one wonder how valuable he will continue to be. Also, MLBTR recently reported that when the Orioles asked about Byrd, the Phillies countered with a package of Byrd and Ryan Howard. Ugh.campanarinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-9697256787402736802014-12-20T21:03:43.674-08:002014-12-20T21:03:43.674-08:00Personally, I would rather have the draft pick and...Personally, I would rather have the draft pick and not have the risk on the backside of a Shields contract, but that's just me.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.com