tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post2684749205488129659..comments2024-03-29T02:43:41.299-07:00Comments on When the Giants Come to Town...: Thoughts on Lineup Construction Part IIDrBGiantsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05574563470247927739noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-7146133545708060762014-08-19T07:16:54.308-07:002014-08-19T07:16:54.308-07:00We will address other factors including speed/SB&#...We will address other factors including speed/SB's, "bat control", GIDP, etc in Part III when we look at each individual position in the order.<br /><br />To me, Trout is the best hitter on the Angels team. I would bat him 4'th, although with Pujols on the same team, it gives them some choices.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-13234984383911736112014-08-18T22:27:41.354-07:002014-08-18T22:27:41.354-07:001) Do you factor in stolen base or contact hitting...1) Do you factor in stolen base or contact hitting as good attributes for leadoff or #2 batters? <br />2) Watching Mike Trout makes me wonder if he is a better leadoff or #2 batter. Your thoughts?<br />DocGroonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-63855520572896458702014-08-18T15:35:01.313-07:002014-08-18T15:35:01.313-07:00Nope, it was 28. Still, talk about an outlier!Nope, it was 28. Still, talk about an outlier!DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-86747369690980000862014-08-18T15:33:30.992-07:002014-08-18T15:33:30.992-07:00Just looked it up: Morse has the most GIDP's ...Just looked it up: Morse has the most GIDP's of any Giants hitter this season with 17. Posey is second with 13 and Pabs has 11. Everybody else is in low single digits. For that and other reasons, you would probably not want Morse hitting in the top 3 in the order and probably not cleanup either.<br /><br />Ha! Didn't AJ Pierzynski have almost 40 one year? LOL!DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-22395212354543156352014-08-18T15:24:06.463-07:002014-08-18T15:24:06.463-07:00If you have an outlier in GIDP's then, of cour...If you have an outlier in GIDP's then, of course you would have to take that into consideration and drop him in the order if it is too much of a drain on collective OBP. Most of the time, GIDP differences are going to be negligible.<br /><br />There is no downside to the first 3 batters scoring before the cleanup hitter comes up, but you still want your 3 highest OBP guys hitting 1,2,3 unless, of course one of them is also your best overall power hitter then you have him in the 4-hole.<br /><br />In other words, if you leadoff batter homers and the next two guys make outs, it's better than if he singles and the next two batters make outs. On the other hand, if the leadoff hitter homers too often, you probably want him hitting more often with runners on base, so you would move him down in the lineup.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7389427040394111033.post-82902121854805642882014-08-18T14:29:45.195-07:002014-08-18T14:29:45.195-07:00A few problems with your math...
1) You are disco...A few problems with your math...<br /><br />1) You are discounting double plays by the #2 and #3 hitters.<br /><br />2) You are discounting the first 3 hitters scoring before the #4 hitter comes to the plate.<br /><br />Both of these scenarios decrease the effectiveness of the #4 slot in the lineup in the first inning because they both decrease the total number of runners on base he will have during the season.<br /><br />I realize you are trying to simplify it, but the higher the SLG of the #2 and #3 hitters (still assuming a .333 OBP) decreases the effectiveness of the #4. If a team has 2 STUDS, wouldn't it make sense that the better of the two STUDS hits #3 instead of #4? Additionally, if you have an Aubrey Huff type player (lots of GDPs) who has a highish OBP, wouldn't you also want to hit your best guy #3?calsnowskierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02746266404646821133noreply@blogger.com